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Up date at last.

The usual delay due to treatment:

The Cross-slide had already been removed in order to mill extra T-slots ala Anthony Mount's modifications.

A change to my lathe compared to his, was that the nut is bolted in place, resting up against a shouldered bush thus alleviating the need to measure and then knock it out.

Apron removal:

1) Knocked out the roll pins from the Feed and Spindle Direction Rods (shafts), but couldn't move the collar over the Leadscrew roll pin, so left it I place.

2) Removed the Rod End Cap that supports the ends of three Rods (shafts)

3) Went to knock out the roll pins that align the Apron on the Saddle, but noticed that they where threaded, so for once the gray matter worked and I proceeded to insert M4 screws into them, even though the Grizzly Manual says roll pins, and Anthony Mount had roll pins in his BH600G.

Once the screws where in place the dowels where easily prised out, just leaving the two recessed cap screws to be undone to free the Apron.

3) Apron suitably supported, it was just a case of sliding it along the Leadscrew until it was free then onto the workbench for examination.

4) Said inspection soon revealed that the Gear Shaft had bent where the collat on the shaft butts against the Apron casting, so it needed to come out.

5) Roll pin securing the Spur Gear to the shaft, but this time instead of the pin coming out with light biffs of the hammer, I had to resort to GBH/ABH to even getting it to budge.

Eventually it did come out, but tinkle, tinkle, tinkle into the Apron bottom. Three pieces, due to the fact that the holes don't line up!

6) I then had to resort to a large diameter drift to do more GBH to get the shaft and gear to part company. Oh how I HATE doing this to a 'precision' machine, it makes me cringe. Needs must though.

Said Gear Shaft soon popped out, cleaned, then into the 3-jaw to see how much damage I'd done.

All I did was hold a length of 5mm ø aluminium tube, to replace the roll pins, against the front way and just touching the shaft between the shoulder and gear.

Well, it sure as heck didn't need a DTI to measure the runout, as it showed 1/16"-3/32" (1.6-2mm). BH etc was my reaction seing that.

7) Now how to straighten it. I had watched my Old Man do miracles with metal, either making or fixing, so I hoped some of his talent had rubbed off onto me.

After two feeble attempts with a drift and club hammer, yes I know pretty useless, I said to meself, "a vice is just a horizontal press is it not" so off I went and the set-up is in my new Photo Folder.

It needed two attempts of heaving on the vice handle to get any movement in the shaft, but the bend was reduced to approximately 1/32". One last try, this time slipping the handle of my long/big shifting spanner over the end if the vice handle I was able to give it an extra bit of heave-ho.

Left overnight again and now the bend would need a DTI to measure properly, but definately around 1/64" or less.

Decided to put it all back and try. Easy to take apart again if needed.

8) While the apron was off, I decided to drill and tap M8 drain holes in the bottom of the casting, then cleaned it out using the parts washer as I had seen CI swarf lying inside the casing, there before I did the drilling and tapping.

Back on the bench I saw the Cu pipe mentioned by Anthony Mount that disappears amongst the gears, it getting oil from a reservoir machined in the Apron top facing, fed via an 'Oil' plug in the Saddle, with this reservoir also feeding oil ways along the front edge of the top facing join to the Saddle, with holes drilled from it down to various spindles.

Now! unless the lathe is slightly Tailstock high and rear high so there is a slight slope, there is absolutely no way the oil is going to flow.

I will see where I can add spring oilers with/withour pipe/s attached as Anthony did on his Apron, to do a better job of getting oil to those gears.

8) While removing a semi-hard almost black substance (grease?) from the two worm gears that provide power to the gear train, I noticed that one of the teeth on the bronze worm gear was badly mauled, with another just slightly so. Anglo-Saxon rend the silence on seing this!

Seing that the Saddle and handwheel moved freely when I had loosened the Apron securing cap screws slightly, I will leave well alone for now and see how things go.

Thinking ahead, what lubrication is recommended for those hard to get at worm gears please.

This post is long enough, so calling time.

Geoff - Oh so much cooler today!

Diane,

No mention of the shaper series in the latest issue of ME I see.

ME does look as if it's reverting back to its original spread of contents, seing that it is now including more and more content that was hived off to form the 'new' MEW magazine all those years ago.

The split has run its time.

Geoff - Thank goodness the Groups I'm interested in are abandoning Yahoo! for hosts that appreciate them.

Andrew,

That swarf is also razor sharp as you no doubt know, but newcomers may not.

Take care naughtyboy and enjoy the hobby.

Geoff - Making progress with the lathe repair at last!

Steve,

Read all the complaints from the Group owners and moderators.

IF it was useable I wouldn't complain.

I'm not against change, but I am when it is a backward step, as NEO is.

NEO may not be going away, but I will be, together with many more.

Geoff - I welcome change provided it's of benefit.

Yep, Yahoo global as far as I can tell.

They are still 'testing' the new NEO, so not every Group has been made worthless - Yet.

The total lack of response from Yahoo doesn't bode well for the future of the Groups, with many already heading off to Google and other platforms.

All of my Groups have been made virtually worthless for me, as I cannot access them.

Geoff - Mind still boggled at their stupidity

Danny M,

I've been following that thread from the moment I was NEOd and have posted my thought under GeoffH.

That new CEO of theirs needs to be shown the door.

It is going to be very interesting to see what effect all the negative response will have on their share price and how advertisers respond.

The outcry is gathering such a momentum that Yahoo better respond very soon, or they will do irreparable damage to their image, if they haven't already done so.

Actually the way they are treating their loyal customers, their demise may not be such a bad thing, and in the process it will set an example to others of what happens when moronic management decisions are taken, and the consequence/s that follow.

I've used Yahoo since the early '90s, but gave up on their email due to its total lack of security, having had ALL of my accounts hacked/hijacked, but remained with the Groups for the inestimable value they offer/ed in collective information and experience.

What on earth goes through the minds of management when they treat what must be one of the best and most valuable assets that any Internet company has, with such disdain?

It's now up to the shareholders, advertisers and media to decide their fate, as they, Yahho, are ignoring us, their loyal users, completely.

Geoff - Found my voice again.

mrpete222 (tubalcain) has a set of videos on YouTube showing how to do Acme.

Series starts with his Machine Shop Tips #24

Geoff - Run out of things to say. Bummer!

Yahoo have done a Faceook lookalike makeover of their Groups and in the process have alienated just about everyone in sight.

Group owners are now planning to move to Google or another platform.

I belong to many Groups, and they are now totally inaccessible.

Whoever designed and signed off on this 'upgrade' need to be fired.

Their new CEO has lost the plot in a big way.

Geoff - Shaking my head at how a company could be so stupid.

Edited By OuBallie on 30/08/2013 11:34:04

Power crossfeed when parting off every time, after manual feed to knock off the high spots.

The Q-Tip makes parting off a pleasure now, having given up years ago after far too many dig-ins, busted blades et al.

Geoff - Getting over a bad patch after treatment.

Dave,

Something doesn't sound right if it's wanting to dip.

What lathe & QC?

Sounds as if it isn't too well bolted down.

My first QC was on a 'small' Emco V10P with latest on a Warco BH600G and on no occasion had I/have I been in the least unhappy with them, quite the reverse.

I recommend a QC without reservation!

Geoff - Still haven't fixed the lathe

No no no!

A mixture of jumbo oats, muesli, corn flakes, coffee creamer, sugar, salt, hot water, bung into the microwave for exactly one minute, no longer, then consume whilst listening to Radio 4.

Geoff - A cup of freshly ground coffe afterwards.

Edited By OuBallie on 20/08/2013 10:02:11

Edited By OuBallie on 20/08/2013 10:04:44

Finally got everyting off and I'm now ready to pull the drive shaft out, the one that provides drive for longitudinal or cross feed.

Before I do, however, is there anything running in the keyway that's likely to fly out into that black hole in the workshop?

One thing I did notice, was that when I loosened the two cap screws that hold the Apron to the Carriage, there was no more binding on the handwheel.

With the Cross-Slide off, I now have the chance to do the Anthony Mount modifications, plus any others anyone can suggest/recommend please..

Geoff - Need to make 'C' spanners (Advice anyone?)

Sorted out storage for the chucks.

Just swiveled the wine rack 90° to make space.

What a mess though, should either the crane and/or the pulley system decide to misbehave, or the rope slip through my hand at that spot.

Geoff - Time to dismantle the saddle

The modern world we live in Bill.

Watched 'Metal' last night.

Now I knew RR made their turbine blades from a single crystal, but not how that crystal was grown.

Seeing metal 'moving' when viewed with that super microscope had me sitting up! Flipping heck.

Facinating, and the presenter was actually interested in presenting

Well done BBC.

Geoff - As expected, my stick welding is abysmal.

Thanks JasonB and MichaelG for the heads up.

Will be watching them tonight on BBC iPlayer.

I don't watch live TV, so can't record.

Geoff - Girding ones loins to do battle with the stick welder.

for:

ArcEuroTrade - After sales service from Ketan that sets a bench mark for other companies to follow, and something I did when I ran my hobby shop.

An attitude that brought smiles to customers faces, and a guarantee of further business with word of mouth advertising to boot, something that's sadly missing all too often today.

Tracy Tools - For next day delivery.

Geoff - About to tackle the mystery item.

Paul,

If I could do 'cobbled together' and 'rudimentary' in your fashion, I would be over the moon.

Geoff - Jealous me? No - trying to hide the green tinge on face.

Neil,

Wroong.

Back of the classroom for you I'm afraid.

Drip tray/s of some sort, however, are an absolute necessity, unless the greatest care is taken when putting bits back together again, but the latest technology in sealants does help no end though.

Having access to our usual collection of machine tools, does mean that mating surfaces can be made to come together as intended, thus reducing or even preventing incontinence.

Geoff - Still chasing carport leaks. I was too ^*#% mean on roofing overlaps!

With reference to reading the font on an iPad, it needs to be zoomed in to make it legible, and then the color make me cross-eyed.