By continuing to use this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more
Forum sponsored by:
Forum sponsored by Forum House Ad Zone

Soldering a main-bearing stand.

All Topics | Latest Posts

Search for:  in Thread Title in  
Bob Unitt 108/09/2022 11:42:58
avatar
323 forum posts
35 photos

Whilst I'm not exactly a beginner, this is something I've never actually done before, so I'd like to be sure I've got it right.

I have to temporarily solder together the main bearing stand and the main bearing cap, prior to drilling and boring the bearing-hole. Am I correct in thinking I should tin both relevant faces, and then clamp them together and reheat to join them ?

bernard towers08/09/2022 11:51:10
1221 forum posts
161 photos

Or bolt it together with its proper fixings

Andrew Johnston08/09/2022 12:11:06
avatar
7061 forum posts
719 photos

Never worked for me, the soft solder is too weak. I'd agree with Bernard, use mechanical fixings. This picture shows boring bearings, but is equally applicable if the bearing stand and bearing cap hole is round:

boring crankshaft bearings.jpg

Andrew

Bob Unitt 108/09/2022 13:40:43
avatar
323 forum posts
35 photos
Posted by bernard towers on 08/09/2022 11:51:10:

Or bolt it together with its proper fixings

I'll try that, thanks.

Bob Unitt 108/09/2022 13:44:54
avatar
323 forum posts
35 photos
Posted by Andrew Johnston on 08/09/2022 12:11:06:

Never worked for me, the soft solder is too weak. I'd agree with Bernard, use mechanical fixings. This picture shows boring bearings, but is equally applicable if the bearing stand and bearing cap hole is round:

boring crankshaft bearings.jpg

Andrew

Your picture shows a separate bearing held together by the housing, whereas mine is drilled into the housing itself (it's on a Kennions' 'Tina' ), does that make any difference ?

 

Edited By Bob Unitt 1 on 08/09/2022 13:45:24

Edited By Bob Unitt 1 on 08/09/2022 13:46:37

Edited By Bob Unitt 1 on 08/09/2022 13:46:53

Edited By Bob Unitt 1 on 08/09/2022 13:47:15

Ramon Wilson08/09/2022 14:24:09
avatar
1655 forum posts
617 photos

Hi Bob the unit you require for Tina is much smaller than the bearing block that Andrew shows.

I have soldered together all the bearing blocks for the engines I have made without any issues save one where I held it in the mill for boring/reaming with the split line across the vise, not longitudinally. The block parted with the reaming pressure.

I put a series of images in My Albums under the title 'Making Bearing Brasses - the principle is just the same for a one piece unit which the Tina has.  Maybe that's worth a look? I'm not sure how to put a link to that so just take a look at photos under the user name

Here's the last image in that album - much smaller than the Tina I would think

dscn3762.jpg

Hope that helps - Tug

Edited By Ramon Wilson on 08/09/2022 14:25:22

JasonB08/09/2022 14:51:11
avatar
25215 forum posts
3105 photos
1 articles

On separate bearings I tin and solder large ones or use solder paste on smaller ones and provided you take it easy with the cutting forces and any heat generated they stay together OK

However as Tina is not like the ones Ramon and Andrew show because the bearing is part of the gun metal pedestal and cap I would machine the mating faces of the pedestal and cap then drill and tap as required before screwing them together and then machine the assembly making sure to mark them before taking apart so you put the back the right way.

Bob Unitt 109/09/2022 17:08:22
avatar
323 forum posts
35 photos
Posted by JasonB on 08/09/2022 14:51:11:
However as Tina is not like the ones Ramon and Andrew show because the bearing is part of the gun metal pedestal and cap I would machine the mating faces of the pedestal and cap then drill and tap as required before screwing them together and then machine the assembly making sure to mark them before taking apart so you put the back the right way.

Sounds like a plan, I'll try it that way - thanks.

Huub09/09/2022 23:05:11
220 forum posts
20 photos

I use 3% silver 97% tin (common lead free plumbers tin) for (soft) soldering HSS toolbits on steel tool holders for making grooving, parting and threading tools.

All Topics | Latest Posts

Please login to post a reply.

Magazine Locator

Want the latest issue of Model Engineer or Model Engineers' Workshop? Use our magazine locator links to find your nearest stockist!

Find Model Engineer & Model Engineers' Workshop

Sign up to our Newsletter

Sign up to our newsletter and get a free digital issue.

You can unsubscribe at anytime. View our privacy policy at www.mortons.co.uk/privacy

Latest Forum Posts
Support Our Partners
cowells
Sarik
MERIDIENNE EXHIBITIONS LTD
Subscription Offer

Latest "For Sale" Ads
Latest "Wanted" Ads
Get In Touch!

Do you want to contact the Model Engineer and Model Engineers' Workshop team?

You can contact us by phone, mail or email about the magazines including becoming a contributor, submitting reader's letters or making queries about articles. You can also get in touch about this website, advertising or other general issues.

Click THIS LINK for full contact details.

For subscription issues please see THIS LINK.

Digital Back Issues

Social Media online

'Like' us on Facebook
Follow us on Facebook

Follow us on Twitter
 Twitter Logo

Pin us on Pinterest

 

Donate

donate