Stuart Cox 3 | 29/08/2021 16:24:08 |
130 forum posts 25 photos | Hi all, Quick question, can anyone tell me what I should be searching for please. I am looking for a metric thread cutting insert for a13mm tool, but I need to be able to cut the thread up to a shoulder to the left if that makes sense. My current inserts I have won't allow me to do that as the tip points at the wrong angle. Is there like a LH and RH version? Thanks Stu |
Stuart Cox 3 | 29/08/2021 16:27:29 |
130 forum posts 25 photos | I think I may have just answered my own question, it is an external thread insert I am looking for, I only have internal thread inserts! Doh!! |
JasonB | 29/08/2021 16:27:59 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | You need a code with ER in it = external RIGHT If your lathe will run OK in reverse then the internal tool can be used at the rear of the work, I tend to do that as it is easier to work away from a shoulder than stop just before it Edited By JasonB on 29/08/2021 16:32:10 |
Stuart Cox 3 | 29/08/2021 17:05:27 |
130 forum posts 25 photos | Thanks Jason, I did actually try cutting the thread at the rear of the work using the internal tool but I ended up with a LH thread, but I realise now I should be cutting away from the shoulder as you mentioned Thanks again, Stu |
John Reese | 29/08/2021 22:23:48 |
![]() 1071 forum posts | An "on edge" insert will let you thread very close to a shoulder. If you grind your own HSS tools you can grind a tool that lets you thread right up to the shouder. |
SillyOldDuffer | 30/08/2021 11:34:17 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | I'm self-taught, which means book learning supplemented by experiment corrected by much help from forum. Great fun, but self learning leaves a multitude of gaps! Is there a good reason for threading up to a shoulder? My reading suggests, and what I've always done, is to start by turning down the blank (hex or round stock), to thread diameter and then cutting a slot as deep as the thread at the shoulder with a parting tool. This creates start or finish space for the threading tool and much reduces the chance of a collision. I don't believe the slot makes any difference to bolt strength, so why not always make one? On the subject of collisions, I always thread away from the chuck in reverse like Jason. Possibly I learned the trick from him! However, reverse threading isn't a good idea if you're unfortunate enough to own a lathe with a screw-on chuck... Dave |
JohnF | 30/08/2021 13:23:55 |
![]() 1243 forum posts 202 photos | Dave aka SoD making an undercut at the shoulder is industry standard but doing it with a parting tool will potentially reduce the strength due to sharp corners creating stress points. Undercut tools as a general rule would be 1-1/2 x pitch wide with a radius on the corner adjacent to the shoulder and the "thread side" having an angle equal to half the thread angle or 45 deg. John |
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