REN matters - a cautionary tale
pgk pgk | 20/08/2020 03:37:32 |
2661 forum posts 294 photos | I had to rush off to help my daughter a few days ago and that first evening there was a power outage back at my rural house. OH did quite well to remember that she had to find and plug in an old simple phone into the main socket to be able to call me and leccy Co and dig out the emergency lights and stiuff. Anything like setting up our emergency genny was beyond her but the otage was only 2 hours. Over the years we've had a few internet issues and every time its been line faults, tree branches or exchange switch gear and a heck of a time getting providers to chase up Openreach. I tried emailing the internet provider from daughter's house and wife spent 2 days trying to get a call-back by landline. (we have no cell service around here). And when she did get a response they refused to authorise any help because the account is in my name and not hers. |
clogs | 20/08/2020 07:11:21 |
630 forum posts 12 photos | aint modern life so complicated....? on computors I always wait for the new Apple update before loading the previous one.... seems safer to me....but those little note that appear on the screen telling u about the update drives me nuts..... hahaha.... who's got time to write and wait for letters anymore......? |
Clive Foster | 20/08/2020 08:22:31 |
3630 forum posts 128 photos | Interesting. I thought REN was a measure of the power drawn down the line to operate old style line powered phones and their bells and ringers. As routers are independently mains powered and don't draw power from the line surely exceeding the REN shouldn't make any difference. Clive |
David Jupp | 20/08/2020 08:26:55 |
978 forum posts 26 photos | If a phone is connected without DSL filter, it will seriously degrade the DSL signal. The router doesn't need DSL filter. |
pgk pgk | 20/08/2020 10:15:43 |
2661 forum posts 294 photos | Posted by David Jupp on 20/08/2020 08:26:55:
If a phone is connected without DSL filter, it will seriously degrade the DSL signal. The router doesn't need DSL filter. Tat i didnlt know.. thanks. When wife's back is turned I might try plugging the old phone in with a spare in-line filter to test that but life wouldn't be worth living if I stop it working again. pgk |
Nicholas Farr | 20/08/2020 11:33:37 |
![]() 3988 forum posts 1799 photos | Hi pgk, I can plug this ole ring-a-ding phone into my DSL filter and it doesn't stop the internet working, can't dial out on it, cause it's the old pulse dialler but it will ring if someone phones me and we can speak as normal. Regards Nick. |
peak4 | 20/08/2020 11:40:49 |
![]() 2207 forum posts 210 photos | The other alternative, to preclude a future problem, would be to replace the master socket faceplate with an ADSL one, assuming you have conventional copper broadband, and your ADSL router is plugged into the master socket. |
pgk pgk | 20/08/2020 12:49:22 |
2661 forum posts 294 photos | Sadly the master socket in old house is absurdly located half-way up the staircase wth no convenient power point and it might be a mare to figure out which order stuff is daisy-chained. There are some dozen legacy telephone sockets here without surface wiring and no neatly simple way for me to extend the incoming line to a more sensible place. Educating the wife might just be an easier challenge ....? I have instructed her to unplug any and all phones from the system if it ever goes down again (and reboot) If that fails then she'll have to run an extension lead to the stairs and try it there. If it works then replug stuff in one at a time. pgk |
Neil Wyatt | 20/08/2020 15:14:37 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Pah! Think yourselves lucky. Until 2017 I had my data delivered daily by a runner carrying a floppy disk in a forked stick. At least these days he gives me a CD ROM... |
pgk pgk | 20/08/2020 16:03:49 |
2661 forum posts 294 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 20/08/2020 15:14:37:
Pah! Think yourselves lucky. Until 2017 I had my data delivered daily by a runner carrying a floppy disk in a forked stick. At least these days he gives me a CD ROM... Ha! Wind handle, Lad, and ask Blodwen in't exchange to tie 800baud modem to t'other cocoa tin lid...
pgk |
Alan Vos | 20/08/2020 17:33:16 |
162 forum posts 7 photos | Did enybody ever actually manage to exceed the REN limit and experience an adverse effect ? From what I recall, the stated limit was 4. The daftness was that no device was allowed to state less than 1, even if, as mentioned above, it was seperately powered and put very little load on the line.
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