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Greensands16/06/2020 13:25:04
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Hi - I have made up a couple of tender water valves for the injector feeds on a 5"G locomotive and bench tests carried out on the valves with a head of water equivalent to the full tender height show a small but persistent leak. My question is - Is this of significance and what are the consequences of the feed pipes leading to the injector inputs filling up with water leaking past the valves?

duncan webster16/06/2020 14:17:28
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Lots of drivers in our club leave the injector water valve cracked open all the time. It keeps the injector cool, and there is then full water supply available the instant you whack the steam on

Greensands16/06/2020 18:04:10
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Duncan - Thanks for your reply. It means that I can live with my present valves with some reassurance that they should be OK in practice.

Brian Oldford16/06/2020 18:11:00
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Firemen on heritage railways usually get an ear-bashing from the inspector for wasting water if they do that.

Andrew Tinsley16/06/2020 18:43:45
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Brian,

I took the ear bashing with pleasure. The damn inspectors don't have to douse the injectors with buckets of cold water to get them to work! Pity, as otherwise they may change their tune.

Andrew.

Paul Kemp16/06/2020 19:44:26
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Worth considering if the leak is internal or external though? It's fine if there is a small leak through the valve but if it is leaking up the stem through the gland you stand a chance of sucking air in when the injector is running, and they don't like that!

Paul.

Doubletop17/06/2020 08:22:59
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As Paul says, if the valve is leaking when shut off it is likely that, when using the injector, it will pull air into the water feed line causing the injector to fail.

Pete

Andrew Binning27/06/2020 08:52:20
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I had injector feeding problems once with a 5" tank loco. I traced the problem to a leak in the feed pipe from the side tanks. Not big enough to show with the head from the tanks but enough to allow air in when the injector was trying to feed and the vacuum was drawing in air. Cured the leak and the injector worked fine.

Edited By Andrew Binning on 27/06/2020 08:53:19

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