A bit of reworking and some improvements to a birthday gift before I hand it over.
Lathejack | 27/10/2015 22:04:32 |
339 forum posts 337 photos | I purchased this new Wilesco traction engine kit as a birthday gift for someone of, shall we say, slightly more mature years. But despite it's price tag it was a little more crude and toylike than expected. So I have been remaking some parts to improve the look of it and give it a less toylike and higher quality feel before I hand it over to its new owner. The red wheels are from Mamod and are far more solid and realistic zinc alloy castings. But they are a little smaller in diameter, so I machined up the solid bronze wheel rims shown, the rear ones are 100mm diameter. A single rear Mamod wheel with bronze rim weighs at least as much as the whole of the original Wilesco model. |
Michael Gilligan | 27/10/2015 22:08:05 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Nice work ... Sad that it needs to be done though. MichaelG. |
Lathejack | 27/10/2015 22:47:10 |
339 forum posts 337 photos | Yes MichealG, it is a shame. The only solid parts on it are the Dynamo, engine block and flywheel. Below shows the new bronze smoke box with door and steering fork. The very simple pressed steel Wilesco smoke box is on the left. |
Lathejack | 27/10/2015 23:42:43 |
339 forum posts 337 photos | It's beginning to take shape, the new front axle leaf springs are yet to be made and fitted. This self assembly kit is supplied with nuts and bolts to secure it together. The engine is also available ready built from the factory, but then it is secured together with eyelet type rivets. There is no difference in the price of the ready built kit or the self assembly type. |
Neil Wyatt | 28/10/2015 08:20:42 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | The revised engine is certainly an improvement, but to be fair to Wilesco their models are intended to be in the long tradition of German pressed tinplate models. Neil |
Lathejack | 28/10/2015 11:34:51 |
339 forum posts 337 photos | Well, tradition or not, the model is what it is and concentrates on function more than form, which is fine. I am not really criticising it, just describing it as it is whether good or not so good. The birthday present funds would not stretch to a similar sized Allchin or Mercer engine. I did expect to do some improvement work, such as the Mamod wheels which were ordered at the same time. But as sometimes happens, the more you look the more you find wanting. If it were a gift to a much younger person then I would have left it as is. The lack of solidness and some detail would not have mattered to most of them. The working boiler, steering, steam engine with slide valve, Dynamo and lights plus geared drive to the rear wheel via a simple clutch would have been far more interesting than anything else. A much younger me would have been thrilled with it, particularly the steam engine itself. The Mamod wheels are quite good heavy lumps. But the manufacturer may want to take a look at the lathes that produce them to see if they need tweaking, adjusting or replacing. The machined outer surface of the rims isn't very concentric to the bore of the hub. Also the diameter of the wheels varies across the width of the wheels. See, I said the more you look the more you find wanting.
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Lathejack | 28/10/2015 19:00:04 |
339 forum posts 337 photos | The canopy supports are supplied as shaped lengths of 4mm brass rod with a coil spring slid over to simulate a twist. The two U shaped frames with springs shown below form the rear and middle supports, the Y shaped frame is for the front support. The twisted brass sections are what I formed from some 4mm square brass bar. |
Neil Wyatt | 28/10/2015 20:17:34 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Don't get me wrong, I'm rather impressed by your modifications, I think it looks far better than a Mamod TBH (and I have three Mamod steam engines - roller, roadster and a stationary). |
Lathejack | 28/10/2015 23:02:50 |
339 forum posts 337 photos | Thanks Neil, I could see what you meant and I do agree. Light metal pressings have been a favoured method of manufacture by German toy and model manufacturers for years, I just didn't realise they still did it to such an extent. Looking around the web reveals lots of other upgraded Wilesco engines, some of which go much further than I have. |
Neil Wyatt | 29/10/2015 09:07:32 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | It's probably the best way to obtain a professionally made boiler at reasonable cost. I am always surprised that there isn't a market for someone mass producing small, certificated boilers at affordable prices. For example a small traction engine boiler and one or two standard boilers suitable for some key 3 1/2" designs. I'm sure that a lot more people would build locos if there was an off-the shelf way to obtain a boiler at the beginning of your project at reasonable cost. Of course it's a chancy investment for someone to order a three-figure quantity of, say, Rob Roy, Tich or Minnie, boilers. Neil |
Lathejack | 29/10/2015 21:47:57 |
339 forum posts 337 photos | Nearly finished now. The twisted brass canopy supports are in place, and they don't seem look too bad. |
Lathejack | 30/10/2015 20:43:54 |
339 forum posts 337 photos | I also made a couple of brass boiler bands to brighten things up a bit. The kit comes supplied with these quite good T Pettigrove facia boards. |
lorenzo santilli | 24/08/2020 20:55:28 |
1 forum posts | Nice work ! i've been wondering, do the Mamod wheels need any mods done to them ? (except the rings) or do they just fit onto the axle ? and, does the transmission still work with the Mamod wheels ? |
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