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Spurry23/12/2010 19:05:00
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Posted by Geoff Sheppard on 23/12/2010 11:46:54:
I recall that one well-known model engineering trade exhibitor (no longer with us) used to put his prices up at exhibitions. His reasoning was that someone had to pay for the stand rental and it wasn't going to be him!
 
Well,  there's still at least one exponent of that business technique attending the shows. There is not usually a price list displayed which gives a clue.
 
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hammer24/12/2010 19:54:06
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Posted by hammer on 21/12/2010 23:58:11:
DAVID This is more like what I wanted to say HAMMER
Unfortunately there appears to be an elitist attitude by the train fatality. Yes it requires skill to construct an engine, machinist, panel beater, painter and a bit of soldering, and in most cases deep pockets to pay for a boiler. (I was referring to some of the comments in this thread. Not the judges) 
Now in the first post on this thread boats where mentioned, I took two boats to the show, got commended OK.( I was happy with this as it was my first entry) But none of the working boats received much more I feel the judges did not consider the working part sufficiently. If a simple model was in a case highly polished it got a medal. (This just an observation)  Sour grapes you are thinking, yes maybe but all the skills above are required.  I will grant the accuracy is not required. But over 100 metal items required on one scale sail boat. Plus you need to be a seamstress woodworker (not model engineering).   It would have been nice to know what the judges didn't like so things could be improved. (I know conversation with judges are impossible, but a card of points could be useful in improving entries next time.)  Hammer.P.S. I though the show was very good.

 

David Clark 124/12/2010 21:16:12
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Hi There
The judges consider everything and points are awarded or not on what they find.
One of the things taken into account is prototypical accuracy.
Perhaps these boats had an oscillating engine or similar and lost points.
All entries are judged fairly.
regards David
 
Stovepipe25/12/2010 22:51:59
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And I couldn't attend, because I was required for domestic duties, SWMBO having broken her left wrist (tripped over the rug in the lounge).  So I feel thorougly grumpy because i missed out on it. grump, grump !
 
Dennis
David Piddington27/12/2010 19:59:12
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The first Model Engineer Exhibition I went to was in 1956 - IN MID-SUMMER - and held at the New Horticultural Halls in (Kensington?? _ I foreget) and in those days if was almost universally model engineering content. Aged 17 I went with my Dad. It was then that I determined that one day I would build a 3.5" gauge loco. I just might live long enough to do just that. Later when Model Engineer combined under other model magazine publishing houses, the event continued its name as the "attraction" but many other disciplines were included. Over many years this process has continued. There are two other national model engineering exhibitions, those at Harrogate and at Leamington Spa, one in May and the latter in October, and both principally model engineering disciplines. Perhaps THE "ME" should consider a different timing and content for what was once the premier event.
David Piddington
Brian Everett 108/01/2011 18:32:08
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Just a comment on the Plastics controversy.
 
Would a all metal chassis of a model F1 car fitted with a scale carbon fibre body shell (plastics) be eligible, or not ?
 
Plus, what about the adhesives used to anchor wheels to axles on scale locomotives etc,, is that chemical engineering ?  Surely such products are plastics and therefore borderline ?
 
Best regards.
 
Brian. 
Chris Trice08/01/2011 23:11:59
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I don't think the controversy is about the use of plastic materials. It's more about injection moulded plastic parts already shaped that just need sticking together, arguably the model discipline furthest from tradional engineering as most people think of it. A genuinely fully scratchbuilt plastic model could just about be argued into the model engineering category but Airfix kits, even with minor mods can't really be considered engineering. Not saying that plastic kits aren't a skill in their own class. The standards of construction and painting are high but it's a completely different skill set which has nothing in common with traditional engineering.
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