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Michael Gilligan05/04/2021 14:14:11
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An excellent ‘fix’ and a useful video ... Well done, Sir yes

The price of spare half-nuts should have plummeted !!

MichaelG.

old mart05/04/2021 16:05:59
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A good fix which the lathe can still be used with the old nuts. Remember that there may be some backlash between the leadscrew and the nuts and allow for it. That inlay I made was using the old nut, but much easier for me as the leadscrew is 1" diameter and makes internal threading easier. I have done 3/4 x 5 Acme by roughing out most of the thread and then finishing with a tap from Tracy Tools.

Howard Lewis05/04/2021 16:23:41
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Yet another way of skinning the proverbial cat!

Splendid! You now have plenty of time to search out a more permanent solution. Probably several years!

Howard

AJAX05/04/2021 16:31:07
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 05/04/2021 14:14:11:

An excellent ‘fix’ and a useful video ... Well done, Sir yes

The price of spare half-nuts should have plummeted !!

MichaelG.

Wishful thinking about the price of spares, but here's hoping!

AJAX05/04/2021 16:33:45
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Posted by old mart on 05/04/2021 16:05:59:

A good fix which the lathe can still be used with the old nuts. Remember that there may be some backlash between the leadscrew and the nuts and allow for it. That inlay I made was using the old nut, but much easier for me as the leadscrew is 1" diameter and makes internal threading easier. I have done 3/4 x 5 Acme by roughing out most of the thread and then finishing with a tap from Tracy Tools.

I had a look for Acme 3/4 x 8 TPI taps and the only one I could find was on eBay from a Chinese supplier. Nevertheless, I like your idea of roughing out first and will bear it in mind if I ever need to attempt this job.

AJAX05/04/2021 16:36:00
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Posted by Howard Lewis on 05/04/2021 16:23:41:

Yet another way of skinning the proverbial cat!

Splendid! You now have plenty of time to search out a more permanent solution. Probably several years!

Howard

I'm guessing this "temporary fix" may see me out, but I may do a "proper job" (with a threaded insert) at some stage just for completeness. And then again, if I can buy new half nuts for £75 that doesn't sound like an unreasonable deal either.

Bazyle05/04/2021 18:15:29
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Certainly an interesting fix.
I notice the rotation of the bolt also applies some longitudinal movement so there is potential (with good nuts) for using this to take up backlash for anyone using the lathe and vertical slide for milling.

Re the screwdriver slot. Perhaps one at the front, ie threaded end, or a hex dilled in would be avantageous.

Speedy Builder505/04/2021 19:43:45
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Not suggesting you buy these, but it shows re-threaded Southbend nuts

SB Half Nuts

David Caunt05/04/2021 19:49:06
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AJAX

At 3:11 into your video where it is just possible to catch a glimpse of the operating cam it is quite clear that the peg has worn the top right hand end of that slot. I would imagine the same would be true of the other slot which would have allowed the bottom to not be closed up fully. The top is probably the same.

Whilst your remedy obviously has got over the problem it looks as though my thoughts were correct.

Did you examine them? Or is it all just my imagination?

AJAX05/04/2021 19:53:19
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Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 05/04/2021 19:43:45:

Not suggesting you buy these, but it shows re-threaded Southbend nuts

SB Half Nuts

Wow, they are expensive! New ones can be bought for less.

AJAX05/04/2021 19:59:01
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Posted by David Caunt on 05/04/2021 19:49:06:

AJAX

At 3:11 into your video where it is just possible to catch a glimpse of the operating cam it is quite clear that the peg has worn the top right hand end of that slot. I would imagine the same would be true of the other slot which would have allowed the bottom to not be closed up fully. The top is probably the same.

Whilst your remedy obviously has got over the problem it looks as though my thoughts were correct.

Did you examine them? Or is it all just my imagination?

David, you made me doubt myself there and I had to rewatch the video. To save others the effort I have linked directly to the time you mentioned. I don't see any excessive wear but the next time I remove the apron (which probably won't be long) I will have another more careful look.

AJAX05/04/2021 20:04:31
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Posted by Bazyle on 05/04/2021 18:15:29:

Certainly an interesting fix.
I notice the rotation of the bolt also applies some longitudinal movement so there is potential (with good nuts) for using this to take up backlash for anyone using the lathe and vertical slide for milling.

Re the screwdriver slot. Perhaps one at the front, ie threaded end, or a hex dilled in would be avantageous.

Bazyle, that's a really nice idea and one that I might try. I particularly like the idea of a hex socket and know there's a tool to make one on a lathe but the name escapes me at present.

In any case I may remake the studs at some point maybe with a little more care and better choice of materials. I used some 3/4" EN8 as that's what I had to hand. What alternative material would people suggest - EN19? But then again I'm cheap and like to make do with whatever I've got.

AJAX05/04/2021 20:08:10
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A photo in case people don't wish to view the video...

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Howard Lewis06/04/2021 07:26:31
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Rotary Broach? Mike Cox has written an article in MEW on making one.

Howard

AJAX06/04/2021 08:15:09
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Posted by Howard Lewis on 06/04/2021 07:26:31:

Rotary Broach? Mike Cox has written an article in MEW on making one.

Howard

That's the tool, thanks.

old mart06/04/2021 20:52:55
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Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 05/04/2021 19:43:45:

Not suggesting you buy these, but it shows re-threaded Southbend nuts

SB Half Nuts

I looked carefully at the advert and was confused. There was mention of the nuts being original, but the threads looked like steel inlays. The seller should have cleaned the muck out of the threads, though, before taking the photo's.

AJAX07/04/2021 08:17:57
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Posted by old mart on 06/04/2021 20:52:55:
Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 05/04/2021 19:43:45:

Not suggesting you buy these, but it shows re-threaded Southbend nuts

SB Half Nuts

I looked carefully at the advert and was confused. There was mention of the nuts being original, but the threads looked like steel inlays. The seller should have cleaned the muck out of the threads, though, before taking the photo's.

The threads looked like they were inserts brazed in. Not to worry anyway as all fixed for now, and if I decide to replace it may be with new imports from Oz.

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