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Steviegtr24/11/2020 18:12:38
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I think i may have been a bit wrong with comments about filters. This is an insert from Inverter supermarket site. My inverter has an inbuilt EMC filter & i as always use screened & earthed at one end motor cable. It seems some imported versions from ???? have not got the required filters built into them.

Steve.

It is more important to use motor wires that are screened, armoured or completely encased in metal conduit. This reduces the leakage of EMI and offers a conductive path back to the Inverter (required for EMC compliance in any case).

The Parker SSD Drives products we sell up to 7.5kW all include EMC Filters to the First and Second environment, as long as they have '-F-' in the product code. Most of the others include Second Environment filters, unless they say otherwise.

Robert Atkinson 225/11/2020 21:15:43
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One thought for those who have had RCD trips from VFDs with filters - what was the leakage current BEFORE you added the VFD?
A typical household RCD trips at 30mA (differential between live and neutral currents). But a EMC filter leakage to earth (caused by the "Y" capacitor(s) is less than 1mA for a simple filter, about 5mA for a VFD filter or 15mA for a high performance filter. Given these figures even a high performance filter should not cause a trip. It is likely that the existing wiring and equipment has used up most of the leakage "allowance" and the VFD filter pushes it over the edge. Not if the existing current is from filters, that's not too bad, but it could be due to degraded wiring (for example google "green goo cable".

If your VFD filter trips the RCD it might be time to get a competent electrician to check the house wiring.

Robert G8RPI.

Mike Poole25/11/2020 21:49:21
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Probably not a problem these days but CRT computer monitors are a bit leaky, an office had five fed from one RCD that would hold any four but all five would trip, for some reason a 10mA trip was fitted so it was super sensitive.

Mike

Steviegtr25/11/2020 21:59:19
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Way back we had to excuse quite a lot of office equipment from the PAT test leakage test, due to a lot of equipment having padding capacitors around the chassis ,connected to earth. We used to get some weird readings.

After contacting the aapropriate manufacturers of the equipment we skipped the leakage test as directed by the Electrical engineers at the Blue chip companies we contracted to.

Note to oneself put all your Inspection & testing meters on fleabay.

Steve.

AJAX03/02/2021 00:29:18
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Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 20/11/2020 23:06:49:

If you are unsure of VFDs then don't buy a cheap Ebay Chinese VFD. They do work but need some experience to decipher the very poor documentation

Take Old Mart's advice and get a VFD from Inverter Drive Supermarket. Phone them up and ask for a recommendation.

I buy secondhand Siemens 420/440 or Alytivar VFDs , These are good quality units with excellent documentation and cost only a few pounds more than the Chinese VFDs I have installed 5 units so far with no problems.

Andrew.

Andrew, do you suffer any nuisance tripping with the Siemens VFDs? I considered getting one but the documentation states to avoid nuisance tripping an RCD must be type-B 300 mA. The RCD serving my garage is only 30 mA and I do get occasional nuisance tripping with a Eurotherm VFD.

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