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Nicholas Farr09/01/2020 09:17:51
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Hi, well my roll is a mobile one and is orientated as shown below and will always be so, whatever anybody else likes or any standards dictate. It is in my opinion, the most efficient and easiest way of usage.

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Incidentally, the seat cover should be down during flushing for hygienic reasons, as micro drops of contaminated water can travel quite a distance throughout the room during the flush and land on all your nice clean surfaces in the vicinity including any exposed toilet roll and the bacteria will continue to multiply.

Regards Nick,

Mike Poole09/01/2020 09:29:16
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Posted by Paul M on 09/01/2020 09:14:23:

I am still in discussion with my employer regarding, which newspaper and the size of the squares, and whether to use string or nylon cord. No British Standards seem to have been published.

The Guardian would give me the most pleasure in this application.smiley

Mike

Georgineer09/01/2020 10:21:12
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Posted by duncan webster on 08/01/2020 15:27:12:

There actually is a British Standard (yes British, nothing to do with EU or ISO) for making a cup of tea

While I can't help with tea making, I do have a three-page document for the weekly Plant Maintenance of the Instrument Maintenance Department bicycles at Fawley Power Station. It boils down to "Check the tyre pressures. Inflate as required".

When I was at Fawley in 1971 a Work Study programme was instituted, where every conceivable task was specified in a Time and Motion sort of way. Without a Work Specification a job didn't exist, so couldn't be done. It was a nightmare! This specification was written by my manager, complete with diagram, and I could never establish just how far his tongue was in his cheek when he wrote it.

Unfortunately I only have a very faint photocopy which won't scan successfully, so I can't put it up for your instruction and enlightenment.

George B.

Bryan Cedar 109/01/2020 10:59:23
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Posted by Mike Poole on 09/01/2020 09:29:16:
Posted by Paul M on 09/01/2020 09:14:23:

I am still in discussion with my employer regarding, which newspaper and the size of the squares, and whether to use string or nylon cord. No British Standards seem to have been published.

The Guardian would give me the most pleasure in this application.smiley

Mike

The size of squares reminds me of my experience in the QA hospital at Gosport where the loo paper size was so narrow one had to be careful how you used it !. On my next visit I took my own. At Southampton, the paper was considerably larger. So there should be standards for size. NHS please note

Neil Wyatt09/01/2020 11:25:14
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Posted by Nicholas Farr on 09/01/2020 09:17:51:

Incidentally, the seat cover should be down during flushing for hygienic reasons, as micro drops of contaminated water can travel quite a distance throughout the room during the flush and land on all your nice clean surfaces in the vicinity including any exposed toilet roll and the bacteria will continue to multiply.

Regards Nick,

Hi Nick,

I read a report in new Scientist on research that showed the narrow gap left when the seat is down creates a venturi effect and actually spreads the aerosol of contaminated water further.

Bet that's cheered you up.

Neil

Neil Wyatt09/01/2020 11:27:06
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Posted by Bryan Cedar 1 on 09/01/2020 10:59:23:

The size of squares reminds me of my experience in the QA hospital at Gosport where the loo paper size was so narrow one had to be careful how you used it !. On my next visit I took my own. At Southampton, the paper was considerably larger. So there should be standards for size. NHS please note

Use the Izal Medicated and be grateful

Neil

Neil Wyatt09/01/2020 11:28:38
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Posted by Mike Poole on 09/01/2020 05:05:49:

The fitting of the loo roll came up in an office discussion, my boss preferred the non wall side as do I, but his wife invariably fitted it wall side. They had a long and happy marriage so it didn’t cause any great problems.

Mike

It once Caused a heated discussion at a staff meeting I attended

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 09/01/2020 11:28:53

Dalboy09/01/2020 11:42:34
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There is only one legislation that applies in my workshop

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Hopper09/01/2020 12:46:54
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 09/01/2020 11:25:14:
Posted by Nicholas Farr on 09/01/2020 09:17:51:

Incidentally, the seat cover should be down during flushing for hygienic reasons, as micro drops of contaminated water can travel quite a distance throughout the room during the flush and land on all your nice clean surfaces in the vicinity including any exposed toilet roll and the bacteria will continue to multiply.

Regards Nick,

Hi Nick,

I read a report in new Scientist on research that showed the narrow gap left when the seat is down creates a venturi effect and actually spreads the aerosol of contaminated water further.

Bet that's cheered you up.

Neil

So they need legislation to mandate a rubber seal ring under the seat.

Georgineer09/01/2020 13:34:35
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Posted by Hopper on 09/01/2020 12:46:54:

So they need legislation to mandate a rubber seal ring under the seat.

I did a search. Is this what you had in mind?

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Nicholas Farr09/01/2020 14:57:26
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 09/01/2020 11:25:14:
Posted by Nicholas Farr on 09/01/2020 09:17:51:

Incidentally, the seat cover should be down during flushing for hygienic reasons, as micro drops of contaminated water can travel quite a distance throughout the room during the flush and land on all your nice clean surfaces in the vicinity including any exposed toilet roll and the bacteria will continue to multiply.

Regards Nick,

Hi Nick,

I read a report in new Scientist on research that showed the narrow gap left when the seat is down creates a venturi effect and actually spreads the aerosol of contaminated water further.

Bet that's cheered you up.

Neil

Hi Neil, so that's why my steel toe caps have gone rusty, ah well! I'll have to make a box to slide over the whole thing with a upturned rim on the base so as to catch every single drop. indecision

Regards Nick.

Malc09/01/2020 15:16:23
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After a very lengthy "Lack of convenience" due to refurbishment of one of the college toilets it was announced that it would finally be re-opened the following Friday. Some comedian felt that the occaision deserved a better billing, however the management were not amused!

As a result of a recently passed motion

The Organisers : B.A.D. Skidmark

bid you welcome to :

THE

GRAND INAUGURAL

CRAPPING CEREMONY

FRIDAY 15TH JUNE

2-00 PM

To mark the opening of the new Staff & Student relief offices.

Heavy refreshments will be served to maintain a lively attendance

(Prices reduced by a tird !)

Entertainment By :

“Sheila Shitz & the Bog Trotters”

Displays By :

“The Panhandlers”

(not to be missed !)

SillyOldDuffer09/01/2020 15:18:44
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Posted by Nicholas Farr on 09/01/2020 14:57:26:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 09/01/2020 11:25:14:
Posted by Nicholas Farr on 09/01/2020 09:17:51:

Incidentally, the seat cover should be down during flushing for hygienic reasons, as micro drops of contaminated water can travel quite a distance throughout the room during the flush and land on all your nice clean surfaces in the vicinity including any exposed toilet roll and the bacteria will continue to multiply.

Regards Nick,

Hi Nick,

I read a report in new Scientist on research that showed the narrow gap left when the seat is down creates a venturi effect and actually spreads the aerosol of contaminated water further.

Bet that's cheered you up.

Neil

Hi Neil, so that's why my steel toe caps have gone rusty, ah well! I'll have to make a box to slide over the whole thing with a upturned rim on the base so as to catch every single drop. indecision

Regards Nick.

Faecal matter and related bacteria are more common in kitchens than toilets apparently. Mythbuster's found it to be true of their premises, yuk. Suggested the reason is people are bad at washing their hands while toilets get blasted with bleach and other strong chemicals. Apparently even medical staff trained to wash thoroughly often do a poor job. Alas humanity - no cure for bad habits, laziness or being rushed...

At one time it was believed about 90% of body weight was bacterial rather than human. While that's been revised down, we are still estimated to be carrying roughly our own weight of bacteria. Although I'm more gorgeous than Michaelangelo's David on the outside, beauty is truly only skin deep.

crying

Dave

Nicholas Farr09/01/2020 15:41:17
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Hi S.O.D., one reason why I prefer pubic loo's and those in shops, that don't have doors on them when you see people go out without washing their hands.

Regards Nick.

Swarf, Mostly!09/01/2020 16:07:00
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Hi there, all,

I'm very surprised that there has been no mention of an essential attribute of toilet seats and lids. Namely that when seat and lid are raised, they should be in a state of equilibrium and in no danger of falling closed.

This was not difficult to achieve in the case of toilets that were fitted with the 'Old English Long-drop' elevated cistern and long flush-pipe but I expect these are few and far between nowadays. Fast forward to modern times and the close-coupled suite and I assume that the desired condition is an integral aspect of the geometry of the sanitary hardware.

However, the problem of falling lids/seats might still be experienced in toilets of intermediate age that employ a low installation position for the cistern and a discrete but short flush-pipe.

A politically incorrect acquaintance has occasionally been heard to refer in an exasperated tone to 'damned female plumbers!!'.

Best regards,

Swarf, Mostly!

Bryan Cedar 109/01/2020 16:55:10
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Posted by Swarf, Mostly! on 09/01/2020 16:07:00:

Hi there, all,

I'm very surprised that there has been no mention of an essential attribute of toilet seats and lids. Namely that when seat and lid are raised, they should be in a state of equilibrium and in no danger of falling closed.

This was not difficult to achieve in the case of toilets that were fitted with the 'Old English Long-drop' elevated cistern and long flush-pipe but I expect these are few and far between nowadays. Fast forward to modern times and the close-coupled suite and I assume that the desired condition is an integral aspect of the geometry of the sanitary hardware.

However, the problem of falling lids/seats might still be experienced in toilets of intermediate age that employ a low installation position for the cistern and a discrete but short flush-pipe.

A politically incorrect acquaintance has occasionally been heard to refer in an exasperated tone to 'damned female plumbers!!'.

Best regards,

Swarf, Mostly!

Hi all

Al these comments go to prove that there is no such thing as "Bog Standard." How did this expression come about?

martin perman09/01/2020 17:08:51
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Posted by Bryan Cedar 1 on 09/01/2020 16:55:10:
Posted by Swarf, Mostly! on 09/01/2020 16:07:00:

Hi there, all,

This was not difficult to achieve in the case of toilets that were fitted with the 'Old English Long-drop' elevated cistern and long flush-pipe but I expect these are few and far between nowadays. Fast forward to modern times and the close-coupled suite and I assume that the desired condition is an integral aspect of the geometry of the sanitary hardware.

I have what you call a long drop in our upstairs toilet which is at least 32 years old and I reckon it flushes better than the close coupled unit I have downstairs and thats fitted with a S***widisier to get it to the soil pipe.

Martin P

martin perman09/01/2020 17:08:51
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Posted by Bryan Cedar 1 on 09/01/2020 16:55:10:
Posted by Swarf, Mostly! on 09/01/2020 16:07:00:

Hi there, all,

This was not difficult to achieve in the case of toilets that were fitted with the 'Old English Long-drop' elevated cistern and long flush-pipe but I expect these are few and far between nowadays. Fast forward to modern times and the close-coupled suite and I assume that the desired condition is an integral aspect of the geometry of the sanitary hardware.

I have what you call a long drop in our upstairs toilet which is at least 32 years old and I reckon it flushes better than the close coupled unit I have downstairs and thats fitted with a S***widisier to get it to the soil pipe.

Martin P

Bazyle09/01/2020 17:32:15
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Most people under fifty have probably never encountered a high level cistern but still use the term 'pulling the chain' on occasions. The old bell mechanism was so reliable, and the pump type not too bad but modern all plastic air operated things are horrendously unreliable. At least we don't have too many of the leaky American flap valves - yet.

Can you still get Jeyes paper packs? Loads of the square dispensers on ebay! solves the problem of which way round to fit it.

Edited By Bazyle on 09/01/2020 17:36:31

Grindstone Cowboy09/01/2020 17:39:06
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Posted by Bryan Cedar 1 on 09/01/2020 16:55:10:

Hi all

Al these comments go to prove that there is no such thing as "Bog Standard." How did this expression come about?

I have read - but do not have any idea if it is true or not, or just a convenient, plausible story - that Meccano used to come in various sets, including "Box - Standard" and "Box - Deluxe", thus giving rise to two oft-used expressions.

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