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Nick Wheeler29/07/2018 13:03:09
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Posted by richardandtracy on 29/07/2018 12:04:45:

Jeff,

One further reminder - probably not needed, but you never know - remember the lathe is for bits for the boat. Getting a lathe is not the end of the purpose. It's all too easy to get diverted by the machinery enthusiasts and forget about the primary purpose, and myopically look at the lathe without remembering what it's for.

Owner of a Myford seems to be the definition of 'Model Engineer' for a number of people.

Matt Harrington29/07/2018 13:15:47
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Posted by Fowlers Fury on 29/07/2018 12:15:13:

Matt H. wrote "If you plump for an ML10, try and get one with the integrated motor mount. It makes it much easier to mount the lathe on a benchtop should you go that route".

......and it brought back the wretched memories of trying to line up the separate motor mount, with drive belt in place, reaching over the ML10, trying to hold it all in position whilst marking out the bench for the fixing holes ~ a right PITA. I fully endorse his recommendation !
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Looking in the xls index of Model Engineer articles 1959-98 there are many refs to the ML10 and accessories.
For example:- No. 3771, 156, "Some Modifications to the Myford ML10 Lathe".

Edited By Fowlers Fury on 29/07/2018 12:15:45 (Tried to insert table from xls, didn't work)

Edited By Fowlers Fury on 29/07/2018 12:18:15

Ha! exactly - I remember it well!

Matt

SillyOldDuffer29/07/2018 14:04:18
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Posted by Andrew Johnston on 29/07/2018 11:02:13:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 29/07/2018 10:24:33:

'Do we go too far in rejecting the new for the old, or do we go to far in rejecting what’s old for the new?' While I agree that's an interesting question, it's not engineering!

It most definitely is engineering. The best engineers adopt new techniques and equipment, but they also know, and use, old techniques and equipment when appropriate.

I'll bet my workshop is even more untidy than yours, and mine has spread into the hall and kitchen. teeth 2

Andrew

I agree - we are violently in agreement. I hope I didn't come over as anti-old, because that's not at all what I meant. Rather I think worrying about old vs new isn't a good place to start when solving a technical problem.

For example, Carbide and HSS aren't one-for-one alternatives. Choosing one rather than the other is about fitness for purpose, and the decision should be emotion free. Ditto metric vs imperial.

In my view engineering is about effective results, not about nostalgia, gee-whizz gadgets, paint schemes, trade-marks, or hyped up sales material involving scantily clad young ladies.

Truth is most of my workshop is 'old-fashioned' in the sense that LBSC would have been at home in it. No doubt he would admire the radio, pocket calculator, dro, VFD and rpm counter. But apart from a few carbide tips, the way I cut metal is traditional, which is why Sparey, Westbury, and others remain valuable. Doesn't stop me lusting after CNC or scantily clad young ladies though! Chance would be a fine thing...

Dave

Andrew Tinsley29/07/2018 14:32:10
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This seems to have generated a lot of comment. I have an ML10 and an ML7. I purchased them NOT because they were Myford's. The reason was because they were cheap and in good condition. I would have purchased just about any alternative lathe, provided they were in good nick and cheap!

Andrew.

Jeff Allan29/07/2018 16:39:37
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Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 29/07/2018 14:04:18:
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I agree - we are violently in agreement. I hope I didn't come over as anti-old, because that's not at all what I meant. Rather I think worrying about old vs new isn't a good place to start when solving a technical problem.

Agree to violently agree! face 1

Matt Harrington31/07/2018 11:39:17
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Here you go:

**LINK**

If you are after a 10, this has all the right bits!

Matt

SillyOldDuffer31/07/2018 12:12:49
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Currently £525 after one bid with 4 days to go! Anyone care to guess how much the winner will pay for it? We could organise a sweepstake.

The seller allowing inspection by appointment is encouraging, likely means there's nothing nasty to hide!

Jeff Allan27/08/2018 21:01:26
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Just to close on this post. ML10's seemed to suddenly go up in price on the various 2nd hand markets. Looking back on eBay prices, hard to really tell, but prices seemed to spike during July/August. I also got slightly put off by the cost and availability of accessories and spares. For example, as somebody pointed out, the price of steadies about four times the price for ML7's.

In the end I bough an ML7 local to me in Sheffield. A Dad's machine that needed some tlc but which had a lot of accessories and which was one of the later machines with all the various Myford improvements. Reasonable price, no long travel to pick-up, and a nice provenance, so happy chap.

The purchase didn't have stand but I wanted to be compact on space and have found a sturdy welded frame. It did have a tray, but unfortunately no Riser Blocks and these seem like hen's teeth. I can make something up for bed adjustment, but nicer to have the original versions, so I'm on the hunt.

Also doesn't have a reverse switch, but I'm trying not to buy anything else until I've confirmed the need and found I can't do without it.

It's going to take a few weeks to set up and get going with it, but aesthetically I find the machine really pleasing. When I saw the prices of ML10's going up I looked again at all the other import versions of small lathes, but the Myford romance held out. Let's see in practice if this works out.

Thanks to everybody for their previous input.

Michael Gilligan27/08/2018 21:15:22
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Sounds like a good result, Jeff ... Thanks for the 'closure' yes

MichaelG.

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