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Thanks to the generosity of Alibre, Model Engineers' Workshop Magazine is able to offer every reader of Model Engineers' Workshop a free six-month licence to Alibre Atom3D. Alongside this great opportunity, starting with issue 274 of Model Engineers' Workshop we are running a detailed tutorial series in the magazine. This page will be the 'hub' for links to example files, tutorials and more so make sure you drop in regularly to keep up to date!

Nige21/01/2019 21:14:34
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Thanks Jason your second idea appears to be simpler, less technical

David Jupp22/01/2019 07:43:28
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Nige - yet another way to tackle.

By default the extrude direction is normal to the starting plane, but it does not have to be. Here I have unchecked the 'Along Normal' box, this makes the field below available for specifying direction of extrusion. In this case I chose an edge of the existing geometry.

extrude direction 1.jpg

Here is the result

extrude direction 2.jpg

JasonB22/01/2019 08:22:22
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David would that give the true depth of the groove? I would have thought the greater the angle of the face from the plane that the groove was sketched on the shallower it will actually "cut"

For example this was sketched as 0.200" deep but when measured the groove is only 0.176" deep. You woul dalso need to set it to cut "through all " as the cut will need to be longer than the block as the length of teh sloping face is greater 

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You can see it here where the top groove is done by creating a plane at 90deg to face, middle is extruded to follow rdge and bottom is just a long cut drawn on the face and then cut to depth and the middle one is shallower.

angled slot.jpg

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David Jupp22/01/2019 08:58:08
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Jason - that is all down to design intent and what the user is trying to achieve. The differing approaches do give different results, as you have shown.

There are usually several ways that a particular task can be approached. Ability to change the extrude direction might be useful in some circumstances, but not in others.

Kenneth Jones 122/01/2019 16:52:53
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Hi,

I am tackling Alibre Atom 3D as a brain train excersize to hopefully prevent the onset of alzheimers. I am 83 so progress is very slow, but I am making progress!

However I have started on the introduction of a thread on the clamp bolt (issue 277) but I have hit a snag.

Referring to Fig 16, page 28 it says "right click on the horizontal line then on Convert to Reference Figure"

But the drop down table on my version does not include the line 'Convert to Reference Figure' . The last line is 'Direct Coordinate Entry'

What am I missing, sorry to such a doddery old fool.

David Jupp22/01/2019 16:58:41
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Make sure to right click whilst cursor is touching the line, not the nodes at either end of the line, nor slightly away form the line (either will give a different right mouse context menu).

It might help to zoom in closer using your mouse wheel.

Edited By David Jupp on 22/01/2019 16:59:04

Neil Wyatt22/01/2019 17:49:17
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Posted by Kenneth Jones 1 on 22/01/2019 16:52:53:

No daft questions if you don't know the answer Kenneth!

Neil

mick22/01/2019 17:53:17
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Now I fully appreciate I've not carried out an instruction that won't allow me to get past this stage, but I can't see what it might be. I sometimes get a spring coil appear to the right of the sketch that disappears when I click OK, other times the OK tab is not illuminated. thread.jpg

David Jupp22/01/2019 19:15:10
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Typically if OK isn't available, there is either a piece of data missing, or something incompatible has been entered. Not really obvious from the image what the issue might be - is Face 2 the cylindrical surface of the solid? Maybe try using Z-axis instead to define the axis for the helical.

If helix preview is appearing to the right, that is the wrong way - try checking the 'reverse' box.

Kenneth Jones 123/01/2019 12:18:04
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Thanks David & Neil, I was clicking on the horizontal surface, not the horizontal line. As I said, its the doddery old fool syndrome!, onward now to the next challenge.

mick23/01/2019 17:55:16
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Still no joy. One screen shot shows the screen with a helicial line to the right of the sketch, but when I click OK there's a spring coil appears for a split second to the right of the sketch before the screen reverts to the other view. On this occasion the pitch is highlighted in blue, this is the first time this condition has occurred.thread 3.jpgthread 2.jpg

JasonB23/01/2019 18:18:50
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Mick, that vertical blue line looks a bit suspect, is that what has been clicked as the axis?

Neil Wyatt23/01/2019 18:30:01
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Click with left and right simultaneously so you can rotate the part, like in the article.

This may help make sure you click the right thing (I've found it make clicking an axis much easier).

Neil

David Jupp23/01/2019 19:06:45
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Mick - looks like you have placed a reference line in your sketch an used that as the axis for the helix. Click in the axis field in the helical cut dialogue, then click on the cylindrical face of the part (or the Z axis), so it is selected.

The helix path preview is in empty space, you can't perform a CUT in empty space, it has to cut from an existing solid - this where both orientation (axis), and direction (reverse or not) play a part.

If you are still struggling, e-mail me and we can have an on-line screen sharing session. Make sure to save your file - don't delete it, it will be fixable.

john hill 124/01/2019 07:24:56
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Having problem trying to add constraints to base parts. Unable to bring up constrain tool fig 24. After that nothing works to show a green plane to be able to tick the green arrow fig 25 C. Have made several new bases but no change.What am I missing. Have only had Issue 275 for a week. The mail is slow to down under. Thanks John Hill

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David Jupp24/01/2019 10:40:02
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John - if constraint tool is not showing at all, try re-setting your user profile. There is a link to do this on the Utilities tab of the Atom3D 'Home Window'.

After resetting profile, re-launch Atom.

If you still can't make the green plane show up with the 'show reference geometry' command, can you see the grey planes of the assembly workspace? If not - try 'toggle references' button (viewing and analysis tab of ribbon).

mick24/01/2019 17:23:22
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No gain without pain, as the saying goes! Thanks to David and Jason.m6 thread.jpg

Martin Len24/01/2019 17:28:07
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High

When I have finished drawing in 2D sketch mode then deactivate it so that I can then modify it, it does not save the sketch. Nothing to modify.

Alibre atom 3D has been working ok for about two months until now.

Has anyone got any suggestions,is it a bug ?

Martin

David Jupp24/01/2019 19:07:01
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Martin, are you saying that no sketch appears in the Design Explorer (left side of screen), when you exit sketch mode ? Does re-starting computer make any difference?

Maybe try re-setting user profile as mentioned a few posts previously...

Martin Len25/01/2019 17:16:20
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High David

Yes sketch 1 appears in the design explorer but there is nothing to see in the work space just the green grid where it usually sits.

I right clicked on sketch 1 and selected the edit option, it was then visible.

As for the user profile reset option could you explain where I might find this ,I have searched every I possible could but no luck. It is possible I might have to do it in the future knowing my history with computers.

Cheers

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