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Clive B 131/01/2020 18:56:15
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Ian/Brian

It looks as though my meter goes up to 10 amps only.my meter.jpg

Ian, as far as blowing fuses is concerned the machine runs off a socket which is protected by a 20 amp mcb and to date as never tripped while the machine has been used.

Where am I, I’m in Stafford, how far away are you? Let me guess Lands End or John O Groats. laugh

Clive B 131/01/2020 18:58:20
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Ian/Brian

Wound anything like this be good enough, not that I’ve got one but I could buy it at that price £8.69 on ebay.

LCD Digital Multimeter Auto Handheld Clamp Meter Volt AC DC 600 Amp Tester 2019

Description:

Compact size AC clamp meter, up to 600 amps

AC/DC voltage, resistance, continuity & diode check

Manual Range + Data hold + Maximum/Minimum value measurement

Continuity Buzzer

Low Battery Indicator

Measurement update speed 3 times/second, compact and comfortable design

Compliance with safety requirements IEC 61010, CAT III 600 V / CAT III 300 V

Can be used for AC/DC voltage test, AC current test, electric current resistance, diode test, etc.(PS: CANNOT test DC current)

Can be used in places such as factory, school lab, home hobby, machine repairing, etc.

Specification:

clamp meter.jpg Model: MT87

AC Current (A): 200A

AC Voltage (V): 20V/200V/600V

DC Voltage (V): 2V/20V/200V/600V

Resistance (&Omega: 200Ω

Display: LCD, max. 1999 digits,

Power supply: 2 * AAA Battery (Not Included)

MAX. Diameter for conductor: Φ26 mm

Product Size: 25*50*150mm

Product Color: Blue

Brian Morehen31/01/2020 19:34:28
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Yes this will record the amperage that your motor is using when running . There are several on E Bay Affraid I live in

Cambridgshire. Not Next door . E Bay prices are all similar All have to clamped on the live feed cable only,

Have never seen a DC model?.Any further problems feel free to come back.

Brian

Steviegtr31/01/2020 19:53:21
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This is another way. It is a clamp meter but connects to your Multimeter. I use it with my Fluke 177. I bought it when I had my Company & cannot remember how much it was. Suspect it was dear. They do make a AC & DC clamp meter because I was going to get one when doing bikes. They are silly expensive though, so never bothered.

Steve.clamp meter 2.jpgclamp meter 1.jpg

Ian Parkin31/01/2020 20:31:27
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Clive

i’m in sheffield ( south) so only an hour away

if you want to bring the motor to me i can measure everything and set you up with a suitable contactor and overload and wiring and start and stop switches and show you how to wire in more switches

i have large stocks of parts all will be FOC to you

Ian

Clive B 131/01/2020 22:47:25
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Ian

Thank you for your kind offer, I think I need a crash course in electric motors.

If you could PM your address and let me know when it would be convenient for you to have a look at it, I’ll bring the motor, old switch and wiring which I’ve pulled off and we’ll take it from there.

Thanks again

Clive

Emgee31/01/2020 23:55:59
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Clive, sensible of you to accept such a generous offer from Ian, hope all goes well.

Emgee

Steviegtr01/02/2020 02:13:55
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Yes good luck, some good folk on here.

Steve.

Brian Morehen01/02/2020 10:07:53
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Clive a great offer from Ian, If the answer to 6 leads into the motor when dismanteled provides a answer this may be interesting ? A mystery at the moment Unless 2 Wire to Thermal overload .

Brian

Ian Parkin01/02/2020 12:01:05
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e7371268-b52f-47d3-a845-684df2b85cfc.jpegI have found a new diagram for a newer type of unistop switch though I don’t think it helps much

Clive B 101/02/2020 16:14:49
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What can I say guys.

Thank heaven for the internet and forums like this, it sure as hell beats trying to sort things out for yourself especially before it was around, all your help has been very much appreciated.

I take my hat off to Ian, I know one has to put their faith in someone and I was praying there would not be a big flash and something burnt out on the motor after making the connections he suggested, because at the end of the day it would have been my gamble.

He was spot on and all from my bit of a sketch and photo of the existing switch.

In my mind I thought, single phase motor that will be 3 wires live, neutral and earth, job done. Wrong!

Hopefully when I take it to him the mystery of the six wires will be solved, its better than watching Hercule Poirot.

I’ve no doubt Ian will put his findings on this thread as I’m sure he will be able to explain it far better than myself, I’ve no doubt a few of you will be interested to know the outcome.

Incidentally I apologise if you are seeing three columns of text, I’ve been told it’s because of typing posts in another program, then copying them across and I could have brought across extra formatting or it could be I copied something across from another website ie. the clamp on meter.

From what I’ve been told there is a paste from word button that can avoid it happening, I’ll have to find the button.

My thanks again fellas

Clive B 101/02/2020 17:37:06
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Guys

Further back in my novel, I said I'd had to contact Axminster Tools again about their DOL starters below is their reply, just to put everyone in the picture:

Thank you for your email

I have checked stock and please find specs below..

3401912 = 750w 6 - 8 Amps

340193 = 1500w 14 - 17 Amps

340194 = 2250w 17 - 21 Amps

​I have arranged our website to be amended.

Kind regards

Axminster

Julian Taylor 109/07/2021 10:33:56
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Help,Please.

I have a Kity combination machine, planer/thicknesser, saw, and spindle moulder. It has three magnetic clutches to run all parts off one Kity motor. Unfortunately one of the coils has an open circuit. I cannot find any body to rewind this coil at a reasonable price. Any suggestions.

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