Here is a list of all the postings Andrew Johnston has made in our forums. Click on a thread name to jump to the thread.
Thread: A SIMPLE POINT ! |
27/08/2021 10:53:33 |
Set screw is the correct technical term. But unfortunately sloppy definitions mean that set screw can also be used to mean a grub screw. Machine screws imply a non-hexagon head. It's almost as bad as describing a milling machine as universal just because it has horizontal/vertical capability. Andrew |
Thread: Mill vise and rotary table |
25/08/2021 11:43:23 |
Another consideration is that having a heavy item at one end of the table makes it much harder work to wind the handles, in all axes. Andrew |
25/08/2021 09:49:01 |
I find having multiple items on the table never seems practical, something always seems to be in the way. So I generally fit just the item I need to use; my mill table is 48" long. Andrew |
Thread: Getting accuracy with my newly added DRO. |
23/08/2021 21:26:34 |
I'm not sure what the problem is? Edge finding and cutter diameter are separate issues. All my standard carbide cutters are on size, or a maximum of 0.01mm under, on the shanks. For general work I never worry about the cutter diameter not being as stated. if i use old HSS cutters, or a slot or edge distance needs to be accurate (say better than 1 thou) then I'll cut 'n' measure using depth micrometers or gauge blocks and adjust as needed. In all the years of using a CNC mill I've never used cutter compensation. Parts fit together straight off the mill. Occasionally I'll tweak the CAM program to cut under, or over, by a small amount as required. Andrew |
Thread: cutting spur gears on a mill |
23/08/2021 21:02:17 |
Posted by JasonB on 23/08/2021 20:45:40:
....they are likely to make better hobs than a standard tap..... Specifically spiral flute, as opposed to spiral point. Andrew |
Thread: Is there such a thing as an 'external reamer'? |
23/08/2021 10:12:00 |
Posted by John Reese on 23/08/2021 00:42:22:
For a dozen parts special tooling cannot be justified. Oh dear, I've been making special tooling for onesies and twosies: Andrew |
Thread: cutting spur gears on a mill |
20/08/2021 08:48:17 |
Posted by Martin Connelly on 20/08/2021 08:36:56:
Anyone who has ever cut gears will know that there is great satisfaction in it............
Must be careful not to get over-excited. Andrew |
20/08/2021 08:35:20 |
Posted by Nathan Sharpe on 19/08/2021 22:39:29:
If I were to use the same tap to cut a number of gears with varying diameter with the same tap would they mesh or would they not? Yes, they should do, although I've never tried it. If I were to introduce a "worm" of same thread between gears would I be able to build a gear train to increase/decrease speed? Yes, the worm wheel I showed being made with a tap mates smoothly with a screwcut length of 7/16" UNF thread. However, it will only decrease speed. The worm wheel will not back drive the worm unless the helix angle of the 'thread' is much larger. I've never cut a gear in my life so have no idea, would like to know where to start If I wish to! Making a non-critical worm drive is fine using a tap. For spur gears I wouldn't start here. See answers embedded above. Andrew |
20/08/2021 08:07:55 |
Posted by Martin Connelly on 19/08/2021 22:16:26:
The spiral path goes along the rotating tap regardless of the angle so there will be a pressure on the blank from the tap whether angled or not. Ooops, I think you're correct. However, that raises a question; if the tap/hob can drive the work why do hobbing machines go to the trouble of actively driving the gear blank? Andrew |
19/08/2021 21:32:47 |
Posted by brian jones 11 on 19/08/2021 16:37:38:
I belong to the school of thinking first and asking around before making chips.........
Unfortunately you seem to have mislaid the first step. If the tap is skewed by the helix angle to get straight teeth on the gear how does it drive the gear blank as there will be no tangential force. The tap drives a worm wheel because it creates teeth that are not straight and hence there is a force causing the blank to rotate. Andrew |
19/08/2021 21:02:53 |
Posted by John Haine on 19/08/2021 15:40:43:
For larger tooth counts the tooth form will surely be involute as the tap is in effect a rack form cutter? Fair point. The teeth on the worm wheel I free hobbed with a tap look triangular. But the wheel is quite small (~1/2" diameter) so any involute curvature will be also be small. The tap was UNF so the pressure angle will be 30°. Since the tap form is triangular the gear teeth will tend to a triangle rather than the more familiar rack form. No doubt gears made by the same method will run together but there will be significant forces pushing them apart. The small worm wheel shown is for a speed adjuster on a Pickering governor, so I doubt it'll ever get turned: Andrew |
19/08/2021 14:44:11 |
Posted by brian jones 11 on 19/08/2021 12:05:43:
Seems too good to be true The method mentioned works fine for cutting worm wheels, although spiral flute taps are helpful: Getting the correct number of teeth is a bit hit and miss. One can free hob a worm wheel, but it needs to be pre-gashed: For spur gears it's a useless method. First, the work would need to be swivelled to the helix angle of the tap in order to get straight teeth on the gear. Second, the work would need to be rotated at the appropriate rate, same as when using a hob. Third, the tooth form would be non-standard, and the gear would only work with other gears made by the same tap. It doesn't take that long to cut spur gears by conventional methods, provide one gets on with it rather than pontificating on forums, two gears at a time in this case: If I want a quick gear, and don't have the appropriate cutter, I simply design it in 3D CAD and let the 4-axis CNC mill get on with it. As was the pinion: For mating with this internal gear: Andrew |
Thread: Reducing drawings |
19/08/2021 09:57:53 |
Posted by JasonB on 18/08/2021 19:42:16: But so would the capacity of the engine have gone down by the cube law. Or is the momentum to the 4th power? I expect your traction engine flywheel is quiet close to 1/4 the diameter of the full size............. I think momentum goes down by the fourth power. Consider angular momentum which is: radius x mass x angular velocity If we assume a scaled flywheel, and the same rpm, the mass goes down as a cube law and the angular velocity (radians per second) stays the same. But the radius goes down linearly. So overall the angular momentum scales roughly as the fourth power. I'm pretty sure my flywheels are close to 1/3 scale, the rim looks pretty thin although they seem to be roughly scale compared to pictures of the full size engines. Ramon: I agree that the medium behaviour doesn't scale. That could explain why an engine that is significantly smaller than full size, say a tenth or less, might have a problem with scale ports/pipes. Andrew |
18/08/2021 19:25:50 |
Posted by Ramon Wilson on 18/08/2021 18:22:48:
.........with no compromises save air/steam passages which are enlarged if the part allows for better air flow........
That's interesting. I'm in the process of re-designing the steam ports , slide valves and ultimately the valve gear for my one third scale traction engines. The port sizes are mostly copied from full size, scaled as per the model engine. I didn't think the ports needed enlarging. My reasoning went along the lines of the port areas have gone down by a factor of nine but the volumes are down by a factor of twenty seven. So the flows are reduced well below the reduction in area. Calculations for the model engines seem to indicate flow rates and Reynolds numbers well below what I would expect for a full size engine. Of course I could have got my reasoning wrong - what does the team think? Andrew |
18/08/2021 19:15:01 |
Posted by JasonB on 18/08/2021 18:39:44:
.....never had a problem with the flywheels having to be scaled differently, what is the reason that it won't work?
Presumably because the volume of the rim, and hence the mass, has gone down by a cube law. However, for a model, probably running off load, I doubt it will be significant. Andrew |
18/08/2021 15:02:20 |
Posted by Ramon Wilson on 18/08/2021 13:55:55:
....reduce dimensions by say 50% you quarter the volume of the part.... Not so, if linear dimensions are halved then areas are reduced to a quarter, and volumes are reduced to an eighth, of the original. Basically an inverse square law for areas and an inverse cube law for volumes. Andrew |
Thread: Is there such a thing as an 'external reamer'? |
18/08/2021 10:42:07 |
Posted by Rob McSweeney on 18/08/2021 09:55:16:
...making of 'running down cutters', which are very close to the woodworking plug cutters.............. That's what I did when I needed to machine an enclosed spigot: I'm not convinced a roller box would be suitable. They're designed to machine long parts to diameter, not short spigots. Herbert did sell one indended to machine to a shoulder, but I expect they're in rocking horse territory. If I was making the part on the repetition lathe I'd use a knife tool and just set stops for diameter and depth. For a lot of parts I'd machine in two stages, a plunge cut to rough out and then a finishing cut on diameter and shoulder. Andrew |
Thread: Which is better Thompson or er collets |
15/08/2021 10:33:57 |
Posted by Clive Foster on 15/08/2021 10:01:03: I have broken the end off a 1/4" end mill by blindly following the leave a gap instructions........ Me too, after that I followed the manufacturer instructions. Andrew |
14/08/2021 22:46:55 |
Posted by Martin Kyte on 14/08/2021 22:29:12: Thats why leaving a small gap is the way to use the chuck. Not according to Clarkson - see Section 4a: Andrew
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Thread: Random Thoughts on Steam Injectors |
13/08/2021 16:18:40 |
Posted by Daniel Ackles on 13/08/2021 14:00:16:
How do you calculate the appropriate sized injector to boiler ratio? No idea where your equation came from, but I'm not convinced it's appropriate. The size of the injector is determined by the amount of steam used by the engine. See the first post in this thread for calculations. If the boiler can't provide that steam, or can't accept the calculated injector flow without losing pressure, then the boiler is too small. It is normal to size the injector slightly above the nominal flow rate needed, so it can be used intermittently. Andrew |
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