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Thread: Bucket of Steam for Sale?
18/12/2019 13:56:09
Posted by Jeff Dayman on 18/12/2019 13:42:15:

Check with Neil Wyatt, Jason, He will confirm I sent a message about these ads before I posted any forum response. No need to slap your forum users around, a suggestion is one thing, your blunt approach is quite another.

Steady on! Following on from the Don Valley comment it's not the moderators that are at fault but the dumb forum users. disgust

Andrew

Thread: Machining a curve
16/12/2019 19:30:48

Don't see why it needs to be a curve. A plain taper and final parallel section would work just as well.

Andrew

Thread: Slip gauges
14/12/2019 15:30:03
Posted by Circlip on 14/12/2019 12:15:34:

Posted with monotonous regularity, a screw jack and mics more than adequate for non NASA muddle ingineerin.

Just as well I'm not a muddle engineer then; at least not like Chuck. smile

I've got full sets of steel imperial and metric slip gauges, both bought on Ebay some years ago. Both have old calibration certificates. The sets are accurate to at least two orders of magnitude better than I need. So even if they're a bit worn or not exactly at the right temperature any errors are still less than I can measure.

I use them for sanity checking micrometers, setting up sine bars and for measuring slots, both when machining and to get a size when I need to machine a mating part. I do not use them as parallels or packing.

Andrew

Thread: What Did You Do Today 2019
14/12/2019 11:42:58
Posted by Ron Laden on 14/12/2019 09:14:00:

Out of interest what do you estimate the finished a.u.w. of the engines to be, no lightweights thats for sure.

Based on the supplier specification I expect the finished engine to weigh about 500kg. The boiler alone is 90kg, so that's a good start.

Andrew

13/12/2019 22:35:17

I'm not worried about the floor. It's B&Q plastic "wood", so the odd dent doesn't matter. It's got plenty of them already!

It will fit through the front door. When I had the door replaced a few years ago I calculated the width of the engine. Unfortunately the drawings, and my CAD model, gave several different values. In the end I went with my CAD model and chose to make the door 32" wide. The real engine is a bit over 29" wide, so it should go through the door with no probem.

Andrew

13/12/2019 12:34:11

At last! I've finally finished making the wheels for my traction engines. Having completed the last rear wheel I was able to measure the real axle length and machine to the scribed line:

facing rear axle.jpg

The drawing says the rear axle is 30" but check on the work. The real axle is a tad over 28", so gawd knows where 30" came from. I also fitted the key for the final drive gear, made from 5/16" keysteel:

rear axle key.jpg

Fitting was handraulic, using files and wet 'n' dry. The slot in the axle is pretty much bang on size. The slot in final drive gear needed some filing as I ground the slotting tool a couple of thou undersize. Here's the engine assembly with the straked rear wheels:

engine_assembly_13122019.jpg

Note the other set of wheels under the table, ready to go off to have rubber tyres fitted. Paper chimney fitted too! That was to check the pattern. Seems to be a fairly good fit; but it's bound to need some fettling on the job. I've got the sheet steel for the chimney and the job for this afternoon is to cut to rough sizes the four 2m x 1m sheets of steel (3mm, 2mm and two times 1mm thick) that are stacked up down the side of the bungalow. I think Burrell often used cast chimneys, but I have a picture of a full size engine with two rows of rivets on the chimney. So obviously using an internal strap. That's what I plan to do; saves making a fixture to form a joggle in the chimney before rolling.

Andrew

Thread: 3 in 1 Lathe/Mill for $139? Early chistmas present perhaps?
13/12/2019 11:53:00

Got to be a scam. Mind you I wouldn't give it house room even if it was free. smile

Andrew

Thread: Machine reamer diameters?
13/12/2019 11:48:34

If they are machine reamers they cut on the chamfer at the front, not on the flutes. So they should have only been sharpened on the chamfer. So the size on the flutes shouldn't have changed.

Andrew

Thread: Digital Phase converter...
12/12/2019 17:18:26
Posted by Clive Foster on 12/12/2019 15:45:08:

Umm. Actually you generally can! Certainly I've found this so with mine, although that does have a sine wave filter box on the output.

Which is exactly what I said in the first place

Andrew

12/12/2019 15:16:13

No mystery. It's basically a VFD, but digital in the sense that it uses vector control instead of an open loop v/f characteristic. While you may be able to run more than one motor they will all run at the same speed. So if you slow down the main spindle motor the coolant pump et al, will also slow down. The blurb specifically says you can't run electronics with the output unless you buy a sine wave converter. That's simply a lowpass filter that converts the PWM output of the VFD to a sine wave. Without the sine wave converter the output may well not drive contactors or any internal transformers for low voltage lighting or control circuitry. The VFD itself may be plug 'n' play but not in the sense that you can connect it to the 3-phase input to the machine tool and expect everything to work.

Andrew

Thread: Stuart S50 (Want to cry)
12/12/2019 12:36:57

I'd agree with Jason that rippa cutters are inappropriate. They're intended for large depth of cut and shallow width of cut, where they reduce cutting forces, not vice versa.

The casting may well be chilled, but a carbide cutter should cope without a problem. They'll cut HSS!

The main issue is a poor quality cutter. The picture of the cutter is a little fuzzy but it looks like all four edges meet in the middle and are not sharply defined. So the cutter will be rubbing rather than cutting. This is what professional 3 and 4 flute centre cutting mills should look like:

centre cutting.jpg

On the 4 flute cutter note that only two edges meet, the other two are gashed so they are not centre cutting. The meeting of the edges are crisp and well defined. I'd never buy RDG milling cutters, but I have used the ARC premium mills, and very good they are too. There are two rules for buying cutting tools:

1. Never buy cheap cutting tools

2. See Rule 1

Andrew

Thread: my first lathe.
10/12/2019 11:10:14

Bother, beaten to it by SoD!

But I bet he can't compete in the kitchen, sorry assembly shop, stakes. I used to have a lathe on the kitchen table, as well as a number of other engineering items in the kitchen:

drilling_smokebox_me.jpg

Now that I've had a new kitchen fitted the engineering stuff has migrated to the hall and sitting room.

Andrew

10/12/2019 11:01:09

I'd agree with the crowd; bin the toolpost. The angles of the toolbit are all wrong; you need more side rake.

I'd start with HSS toolbits and a bench grinder. You can ignore complicated grinding fixtures, a simple knife tool is only three angles, none of which are critical. Insert tooling can be tricky to get a good finish and is more expensive than HSS toolbits. I'd agree with SoD, know your material. If it's out of the scrap bin all bets are off; you may never get a good finish. Ideally start with EN1A; it's fairly simple to get a good finish. On the other hand EN3B, which is a common low carbon steel, can be difficult as it is slightly "sticky" and has a tendency to tear.

Andrew

Thread: Plumbing question
10/12/2019 10:04:38
Posted by Hopper on 10/12/2019 09:51:48:

Flow rate is proportional to the fourth power of the pipe radius times the pressure. See Poiseulle's Law.

Only true if the fluid is incompressible and Newtonian, and the flow is laminar. Water is a good approximation to the first two conditions, but we don't know if the flow is laminar without knowing the Reynold's number.

Andrew

Thread: Tool steel - Beginners guide ?
09/12/2019 13:38:04
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 09/12/2019 13:27:11:

One couldn't stop himself stripping RS232 fixings

That's unfair! The RS-232 4-40UNC screwlocks are useless. After fitting one gives it an extra little nip for security and the brass fitting snaps. No warning, no nothing! I always buy a spare pack when I'm fitting them.

Andrew

09/12/2019 12:07:35
Posted by Dave Whipp on 09/12/2019 11:47:32:

So general opinion is that making a chuck key from tool steel is a bit overkill then ?

It's worse than that; tool steels are the wrong material. They have properties you don't need.

I'd agree with Emgee, use a medium carbon alloy steel like EN16T or EN24T.

The designators A2 and A4 for stainless steel fasteners refer to the grade of stainless steel; A2 is basically 304 and A4 is 316. For steel bolts the grading is based on mechanical properties. The common 8.8 grade is rather more than mild steel, or should be from a reputable supplier. The material should be a medium carbon steel quenched and tempered.

Andrew

Thread: Beginners models
08/12/2019 10:46:48
Posted by richard markham on 08/12/2019 10:09:03:

One thing I have noticed is that most people use collets on the lathe, especially for small shafts, rods etc. I only have a big old 3 jaw and 4 jaw. A set of Burnerd Collets is pricey. Are collets essential or is there a slightly cheaper way to go?

I use the Burnerd collet chuck on my M300 about 80% of the time. The other 20% is almost all 4-jaw or small and large faceplates. I rarely use the 3-jaw chuck; whilst a quality make it is old and worn. I see little point in using a collet set that didn't allow one to make full use of the spindle bore.

I have a 2-axis DRO on my vertical mill and regard it as pretty much essential. I don't have a DRO on the M300 and have no plans to fit one. I simply don't need it.

Andrew

Thread: Meddings Pillar Drill, VFD and referb
06/12/2019 19:05:31

Ooopsie, missed that. embarrassed

Andrew

06/12/2019 18:40:24

The plot thickens. In the first picture of the motor terminals the motor is definitely connected in star. In the second picture it is now connected in delta.

Andrew

06/12/2019 15:29:22
Posted by Oldiron on 06/12/2019 14:25:09:

I hope this has not put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Indeed it has, but the pigeons are mobbing the cat. smile

The speed of an induction motor is determined mainly by the applied frequency, and to a much smaller extent by the load. The speed is unaffected by the motor being connected in star or delta. However, if you apply 240V to a motor in star, and designed to run at 415V, then the phase currents will be lower. In theory the currents will be lower by the square root of 3. To a first approximation the torque of an induction motor is proportional to phase current. Power is torque times angular velocity. So for a motor connected in star, but running at 240V instead of 415V, the angular velocity will be the same, but the torque, and hence power, will be reduced by a factor of root 3.

Summary: The motor should run fine on 240V, but the available torque and power will be reduced.

Andrew

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