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Thread: Level/Flatness using laser/webcam/python
31/03/2023 00:07:12

The fundamental problem they face is that the LASER beam is affected by thermal gradients, turbulence and convection currents in the air. (Even having somebody stainding near it is enough to cause a beam deviation of several hundred microns over a few metres).

I designed & built a LASER guided cutting tool in the late 1980s (using a quadrant photodiode as the target). It was easily capable of micron level resolution, however the beam deviation due to air currents within the machine enclosure rendered it useless.

Thread: how to make best use of my (unused) 3D touch probe? Linux? Arduino? Raspberry Pi? Mach 3?
28/03/2023 16:40:15

Hi Russ,

If you search on the likes of Aliexpress for "3D touch probe" there should be quite a few options - probably VAT to be added to the headline ~£40 figure.

I will add a link to an example, but suspect it might not be acceptable to the Mods (mods: in which case, please delete it)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004670392373.html

28/03/2023 15:45:57

Too late to edit the above, but you may also like to take a look at bNC which (I think) will run on the Rasberry Pi to use in conjunction with your GRBL controller.

I haven't used it, as it requires python to be installed on a Windows machine.

https://pypi.org/project/bCNC/

Edited By Andy_G on 28/03/2023 15:49:03

28/03/2023 15:01:20

Interesting - I was idly wondering about 3D digitising and had had a scout around for suitable software without really finding much. I hadn't come across GrblGru though, so thanks for that!

(Decent looking 3D probes are available from the Chinese direct sellers for about £40)

I also looked at the '3018' type machines, but wanted some (modest) metal cutting ability. I eventually came to the conclusion that I'd need to upgrade / replace every component before I'd be happy with it, so I set off making my own, thinking it wouldn't cost much more - be careful of getting drawn in!

Router-iso.md.png

I (foolishly) added up what I'd spent on it - best part of £1000 surprise

IMG_1843.md.jpg

Edited By Andy_G on 28/03/2023 15:01:39

Thread: Solid Edge 2D drawings problem
26/03/2023 21:07:04
Posted by Mike Tilby on 26/03/2023 14:50:04:

"one or more SHX files are missing" (whatever they are). It asked if I wanted to specify the missing files or just continue. I clicked the latter and the drawing opened and, as far as I can tell, it looked O.K.

SHX files are Autodesk font files.

This suggests that the drawings include text or symbols from a font other than one of the mainstream Autodesk offerings. (Maybe inadvertently!). The missing fonts *should* get replaced with one of the defaults after the warning.

I haven't used Autocad for more than a decade, but I have vague memories that there used to be an option to embed the fonts with the .dwg file (tick box or similar) - Do NanoCAD / SE have a similar option?

If you take note of the .SHX file name it should be possible to copy the file from the source computer to the destination computer.

Some more information here

Edited By Andy_G on 26/03/2023 21:11:48

Thread: Mini Iron and Bronze Furnace
22/03/2023 13:24:19
Posted by noel shelley on 22/03/2023 10:04:43:

If your in the UK PM me and I will talk you through it, you won't look back ! The moisture issue is not a problem once you know how.

I'd be interested in this, too - happy to PM, but it might be of general interest?

Thread: Mc Donald Model tractor
11/03/2023 10:46:33

Truly outstanding!

Very well done.

Thread: Mini Lathe ~ best modifications?
03/03/2023 09:54:55

#1 Sort out the gib strip in the compound slide

#2 Bolt it to something solid

#3 Indexing holes in the chuck backplate & a toolpost spindle.

Thread: Looking after carbide tooling
21/02/2023 00:41:35

I watched this youtube video last night and thought that it contained a lot of good advice and common sense that doesn't normally get an airing:

Thread: DIY milling machine
13/02/2023 01:15:11
Posted by Sonic Escape on 12/02/2023 20:34:32:
Posted by Andy_G on 11/02/2023 09:56:01:
I built a router type machine (CNC) with a cheap, air-cooled spindle motor, and it was nowhere near rigid enough. After some re-engineering, it will cut aluminium (fairly happily) and steel (not so happy). It is still not very rigid and I'm in the process of making a new spindle along the lines of your second option.

The cause for the relative lack of rigidity can't be the linear rails? I also wanted to use them because they are widely available but I read somewhere that dovetail slides are more solid.

 

No, the lack of rigidity was in the spindle itself - the frame of the machine is ~6kN/mm measured near the spindle, but the original spindle itself  was only ~0.8kN/mm, and the re-worked spindle was ~2.5kN/mm. I'm in the process of building a new spindle which I hope will be stiffer. It's a "rabbit hole"

Edited By Andy_G on 13/02/2023 01:20:40

11/02/2023 09:56:01
Posted by Sonic Escape on 10/02/2023 22:36:52:
From my research I concluded that there are two widely available options. One is a combination of air or water cooled high RPM motor that include ER collet:

The second option is only a large cast iron block with an BT30 tool holder:

This one is limited to lower RPM. But I don't need high speed if I'm not in a hurry, right?

Before you go too much further, work out what RPM will be required for the materials / tools you want to use (from published cutting speed information) - High RPM may be more of a curse than a blessing.

For example, if you want to cut steel with a 6mm diameter tool, the maximum spindle speed is ~3000 RPM for HSS and ~8000RPM for carbide. I think that both of these are below the minimum RPM for the first type of spindle.

First off, I would say "just buy a mill". If you ignore that, then I would steer you towards the second type of spindle for a mill.

I built a router type machine (CNC) with a cheap, air-cooled spindle motor, and it was nowhere near rigid enough.  After some re-engineering, it will cut aluminium (fairly happily) and steel (not so happy). It is still not very rigid and I'm in the process of making a new spindle along the lines of your second option.

Cutting test for material removal (it runs a bit happier with lighter cuts):

 
Some details about the build: Link
 
https://misterg.org.uk/cnc-introduction/
 
 
 
Good luck
 

Edited By Andy_G on 11/02/2023 10:01:23

Thread: Grinding your own hss lathe tools. Tips & tricks?
10/02/2023 10:39:46
Posted by Iain Downs on 08/02/2023 15:39:35:

Do you think I should be running as fast as possible (for this, we have a 1.8mm dia target), or run slower and more controlled?

Given that you're machining 304 stainless, I would start slow (with plenty of the best cutting oil that you own). With such a fine tool, the natural tendency is to be tentative with the feed and, on stainless, the result is likely to be that the tool rubs, hardens the surface and then, when you apply a little bit more pressure, digs in and breaks.

FWIW, my advice would be:

- Run slowly (a few hundred RPM, or less);

- Plenty of oil;

- Feed steadily 'through' the surface of the part (I.e. don't wind the tool until it touches the surface and then start feeding);

- When you see the curl of swarf appear keep feeding steadily until you're at your target depth. DON'T STOP.

On the tool: Make sure that the tip is the widest part - it looks from that photo that the tool may have tapered towards the tip (although the actual tip has gone) - you don't want the tool to wedge itself into the slot it has cut, or it will jam and break.

Difficult to tell from the photos, but it looks like there is quite a large relief angle on the front of the tool - if so, reduce this to the minimum possible (5° maybe?) to better support the cutting edge.

I am a heathen, and rough out any HSS tools I need with an angle grinder - much quicker than a wheel - and sharpen them on a belt sander. That said, 3/8" is a big chunk of HSS to start with if you want a 0.3mm wide blade. Broken centre drills, etc. will need less grinding, but you will need to make holder for them.

Exhibit A (set up for internal grooving):

(3mm grooving tool facing the camera; 1mm from a previous job on the other end.)

My 2p, anyway.

Thread: DM542 Stepper driver
17/01/2023 07:57:04
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 16/01/2023 18:54:27:

The DM542 datasheet says it has a maximum pulse input of 200kHz, so max speed is 8rpm flat out. At 800 steps per revolution the motor will do 250rpm.

SOD's maths are out by a factor of 60

(200kHz at 25k ppr is 480 RPM)

Higher microstepping divisors can help with smoothness and noise reduction, and might have some use in getting smooth rotation at very slow speeds, but I also think that the highest numbers are overkill.

Thread: Temperature sensor DS 18B20
04/01/2023 10:32:45
Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 03/01/2023 17:57:36:

The highlighted values are the hour the reading was taken. As you highlighted, there are several (2 in this case) readings for the same hour, the first is always correct, the second (or more) is false just for the t2 temperatures. I could put a routine in to ignore any repeat reading for the same hour but the question would still remain "Why is it there in the first place"

If the DS18B20 reading is initiated by the software in the Arduino, then the problem surely lies in the software?

SoD gives a reasonable list of possibilities, but specific to the Arduino - if relying on the 'millis()' function to determine delays, the counter overflows every ~49 days (for a 16MHz device) which can result in unintended consequences. Your problems occur more often than that, but something similar may be happening - do all your timing related variables have sufficient precision? For example: storing time related values in a LONG type variable could result in overflow in ~24.5 days (should be UNSIGNED LONG).

Once the software is off it's intended course, the results could be anything - e.g. failing to zero a variable resulting in values accumulating and giving a false reading.

03/01/2023 08:57:29
Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 02/01/2023 13:12:03:

Thanks Stuart, when the readings are taken, there is a good reading, followed by one or more false readings

Rec xx Date Hr,, t1 t2 (t1= air temp, t2 = Soil temp- long cable)

0310,17,20220903,10,,18,21,
0311,18,20220903,11,,20,21,
0312,19,20220903,12,,22,21,
0313,20,20220903,13,,26,21,
0314,21,20220903,14,,27,21,
0314,1,20220903,14,,26,36, False read


0315,2,20220903,15,,27,21,
0315,1,20220903,15,,28,35, False read
0316,2,20220903,16,,30,21,
0317,3,20220903,17,,30,22,
0318,4,20220903,18,,30,22,
0319,5,20220903,19,,28,22,

Sould the numbers I have put in bold above increment with each reading?

If so, the problem would appear to be in the software, rather than the sensor.

Thread: Stepper Motor microstepping
01/01/2023 11:52:34
Posted by John Haine on 01/01/2023 10:37:57:

Mode (b) is probably to use the driver in legacy systems

I agree - I'm pretty sure it's to mimic the old 'half stepping' drives that were in use before PWM became common.

In any case, a genuine DM556 would not have this setting.

01/01/2023 10:53:58
Posted by ian j on 31/12/2022 23:50:30:

Hi John.

As an example a DM 556

DM556 stepper driver

As an aside, I'm pretty sure that isn't a genuine DM556 driver - it looks just like all the ones badged as TB6600, etc.

The real DM 556 doesn't have the 2A/2B modes and goes up to 128 microsteps -

DM556 driver manual

'Generic' TB6600 etc example

I believe that the *real* TB6600 chip (42V / 4.5A) only goes to 16 microsteps - these all go to 32, and are therefore "fakes" based on some other chip. Like John, I have heard of problems with these, where the rating of the actual chip used is less than the sticker on the case.

Interesting article here:

I only found out about this *after* I bought some (very cheaply!). Touch wood, they have been performing OK on my little CNC at 36V and ~3A.

(A happy New Year to all, btw! )

01/01/2023 09:55:41

The difference is in the waveforms used - have a look a pages 18 and 19 of the TBA 6600 chip datasheet:

**LINK**

I can’t see that there would be much practical difference, but one mode may reduce motor noise or be less vulnerable to resonance problems than the other in a specific application,

Thread: Lathe jumps out of gear
30/12/2022 10:26:16
Posted by Gary Wooding on 29/12/2022 12:12:16:

in position 3, when the detent at 8 o'clock is aligned with the knob hole, the 3 o'clock detent is nearly aligned with the other knob hole, which has the effect of both detents trying to align the shaft.

 

I suspect that the issue might be that that the '3 O'Clock' (looking at the lever) hole has wallowed out a bit, and shouldn't be able to align with the detent ball in this position - there is visible wear in this hole in the original photos (the hole is at 9 O'Clock when looking at the lathe). If the detent is '1/2 a hole' out, it shouldn't engage.

How well do the balls fit in the holes in the handle? If they have room to wander, they will be able to engage in the detent holes sooner than they should. (If they are loose, the holes in the handle may be able to be reamed out to take a slightly larger ball, or a small, round ended dowel - made to suit.)

My 2p, anyway.

Edited By Andy_G on 30/12/2022 10:28:56

Thread: Unimat 3 Vertical Head Quill
22/12/2022 09:13:12
Posted by Julius Henry Marx on 21/12/2022 20:25:42:

I can make one from aluminium and put a dab of ciano to keep it in place/still. I expect that a good number of thin cuts will do the trick to get to 25.5mm.

The bushes will be oil impregnated, so I doubt that glue would stick to them.

The bushes in that picture look like sintered ones to me.

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