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Thread: Keyless Drill Chuck
13/03/2023 22:23:31
Posted by Samsaranda on 13/03/2023 20:51:26:

Keyless chucks can be of such variable quality, I have a keyless chuck with my Chester V20 mill that was supplied with it when new, it appears to be of very good quality it has performed faultlessly. I also have a Bosch Hammer Drill, not cordless, and the keyless chuck as fitted to that is awful, it is impossible to use the hammer facility the chuck just comes undone, so frustrating. Dave W

Isn’t that why the SDS type of drilling machines were developed?

Thread: ML7 - Zeroing the Topslide?
13/03/2023 22:19:02
Posted by Pete Rimmer on 13/03/2023 19:36:19:

Since it doesn't have a flat face you can't simply put a DTI against the side and travel the carriage.

You might simply turn a part with it and measure the diameters both ends.

Yep, cut withe carriage and then adjust the top slide so it follows the part without cutting or diverging.

Simple way is to not use it for anything accurate.🙂 Mine only gets used for things like threading and turning short tapers - or sometimes cutting up to a shoulder where a tiny bit of alignment doesn’t matter for that few tenths of a mm cut. Most of the time it is jammed at the end of its travel, so no errors from the gibs.

Remember, the lathe will cut best when the cutter is directly over the cross slide dovetails, not hanging out as far as it will reach (unless really necessary).

Thread: Keyless Drill Chuck
12/03/2023 21:51:33
Posted by Bo'sun on 12/03/2023 17:50:38:

Hi ndiy,

Have you had problems with RDG and Chronos then?

A couple of items, I bought at an exhibition, from RDG were, in my opinion, not up to scratch. No receipt, so had to put up with me buying cheap. Not bought much from Chronos and don't particularly expect high quality for low prices, so that puts them lower on my list. Chronos were quick to rectify one faulty part, mind.

I’ve (nearly) always been happy with Arc and Rotagrip - and have found both to be top notch re enquiries and service. Your requirements did not seem to particularly fit either RDG or Chronos. Gloster tooling would certainly be above them on my list, too.

You asked and that was my honest opinion. I sometimes have to order something from where I can get it. I work down the list of suppliers. You’ve had most of my list that would be appropriate for a drill chuck.🙂 I’ve certainly stopped buying anything that I can’t fix myself or afford to throw away, if sub-standard. That means very little of importance direct from China. I’m not that ultra-precise with my machining, but l try to avoid any supplier that I consider a risk of, shall we say, bottom end products.

Sorry if I should not have avoided mentioning those suppliers.- but I just disagreed with a couple of previous posts, I suppose. I’m just ‘picky’ when it comes to making purchases.🙂

Thread: Nut and Bolt supplier UK.
12/03/2023 17:30:22

The last reluctor ring I bought was for a peugeot 607 and cost about three quid. Press fit. Peugeot don’t sell them - they were going to supply a new driveshaft for about £450 (and likely didn’t include VAT🙁 ).

Thread: Keyless Drill Chuck
12/03/2023 16:52:20
Posted by Chris Crew on 12/03/2023 16:28:53:

Get a cheap one from Ebay, Chinese of course but what isn't these days? Nothing wrong with that, they all do what it says on the tin and probably exactly the same product UK dealers sell but minus the retailer's margin. I have yet to be disappointed.

That’s OK if the buyer is up for ‘lucky dip’ about accuracy, I suppose. I would go to Rotagrip, as Arc are out of stock. Neither RDG nor Chronos would be high on my list.

Thread: Nut and Bolt supplier UK.
12/03/2023 11:02:34

I think I would think a bit outside the box. Like a slightly smaller standard thread (3/8”?), buy in longer bolts of the correct strength, rethread and turn the shank to the fitted size. Or pick a more sensible size for the project.

Thread: Machine vice square on mill table
12/03/2023 10:51:46

How long does alignment take? 2 minutes?

I generally bump the vise up to the mill column (or with a parallel slipped to take up any slack) and bolt it down if it only needs to be rough and ready, as that is close enough for some jobs.

After fitting and tightening down (gently) it takes naff-all extra time to square it up with a dial gauge or dti before tightening further/fully and checking again.

Thread: Newbie from Essex requiring your assistance
08/03/2023 18:08:38

A couple of suggestions, maybe more.

Measure the bed to centre height (or have I missed it?). Bed length - usually measured as a maximum size when fitted between centres, too. The chuck attachment may also be enlightening.

Cheap bits on ebay can be a good source of parts to try (like the taper).

Diameter of the faceplate could be a useful measurement, as might be the hole through the spindle.

Measuring tapers (roughly) can be by measuring how far rods, of different diameters, will enter the taper - followed by some trigonometry.

Machine threads size and form have already been mentioned.

Looks like a good little lathe. Howard will certainly help and point you in the right direction.

Thread: Colchester student cross slide back lash adjust
06/03/2023 07:28:37

Back-lash on a lathe is generally only in one direction on each slide and is reasonably constant - unless the screw is worn in the most-used area, so not anywhere near as much of a nuisance as when using a mill. 10 thou (or 0.25mm) will still be 10 thou (or 0.25mm) extra cut when dialled in.

None of us (I hope) cut in both directions on a lathe, when approaching the finish size. Reducing back-lash is possible but generally doesn’t remove it completely. A new nut and feed screw would still exhibit some back-lash when made in metal. The machine doubtless arrived, new, with some back-lash.

Thread: Re-creating Brunel chains
05/03/2023 16:24:15

3-D printing might be a serious project? Very low infill requirement, but may still prove expensive in time and materials?

Thread: Mini Lathe ~ best modifications?
04/03/2023 15:05:51
Posted by David Watson 3 on 03/03/2023 11:26:47:

……./

If I hadnt inherited the lathe I might have considered buying something from the likes of Warco. A brand new lathe at the price of a second hand one that you dont know its history is always worth a thought.

On the other hand … a good secondhand lathe at rather less than a third of the price for a brand new one can be attractive.🙂 I did check the condition of my four main machines (lathe, 2 mills and surface grinder) before buying - although the surface grinder was such a bargain that it was going in the van whatever its condition.

I did, however spend some money on checking out several machines, before buying my lathe.

Thread: AVM MAS 140 lathe
04/03/2023 13:58:14

That is a slow moving application with little load.  Either oil of grease would suffice. I would likely grease it.

Edited By not done it yet on 04/03/2023 13:58:50

Thread: Oil/grease seal fitting direction
04/03/2023 13:51:41
Posted by Nicholas Farr on 03/03/2023 10:04:12:

Hi, when I was in maintenance, there were machines where the shafts were mounted in a barrel with greased bearings, and these often had the lip facing outward, this was to allow grease to escape when fresh grease was pumped in, but most of these had a seal containing a dust shield, much the same as what is fitted to ball bearings. Many other types of greased bearing housing just had a labyrinth sealing arrangement. It the housings contained oil, then the lip would be on the inside, and for some in very dirty and/or wet, or dusty environments, would often have a double lip seal, which had to be fitted the correct way round. Maintenance manuals should tell which way any seal should be fitted.

Regards Nick.

Our (old) tractor’s front wheels were mounted with tapered roller bearings. Grease nipple one side, felt seal on the other side of the axle stub. They were greased, every day when in use, until some old grease was visible. That effectively kept the bearings running in clean lubricant. The rotational speed, even flat out in top gear, was pretty low, mind. With steel wheels, top gear flat out may have been 5mph. 🙂

Thread: Centec 2B Mill buying
04/03/2023 13:40:55
Posted by Mark B on 04/03/2023 03:42:17:

Thanks again for all the replies this is all very helpful. I've decided to go ahead and purchase the machine so I'll report back once I have it and I start to VFDs to bring it alive.

Mark, you have a PM.

Thread: Turning a cylindrical bar into a semi circular cross section bar?
03/03/2023 18:35:26

It seems like a needlessly tricky little bit of machining all up for such a simple engine.

From the ebay listing:

YOU WILL NEED THE USE OF A SMALL LATHE AND MILLING MACHINE AND BE ABLE TO SILVER SOLDER.”

So maybe not such an easy starter project with just a lathe?

Thread: Why is the world of model engineering still imperial?
03/03/2023 12:23:04
Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 03/03/2023 12:02:58:

It's a good question.

Off the top of my head I get think of 3 reasons:

Most of the published designs are old or from the US

The old machines that we repurpose for ME are imperial

Most of us are old gits

Rod

And most things were easily scaled down from feet and inches drawings to feet and inches models? Fairly obvious when most model engineers were still only using imperial machines?

Thread: Centec 2B Mill buying
03/03/2023 07:36:05
Posted by vic francis on 03/03/2023 00:52:06:

Hi Mark, A good thing is if it comes with the extra head raising block, as they never come up for sale, even eBay.. The coolant tray is massive so getting through a doorway is a problem, and mine was welded on.Its much heavier than I thought!Gary Wooding has a beautiful example, and shows what can be done with this machine with skill and vision.

Vic

I cut my base horizontally, after fitting several brackets across where the cut was to be made. It is now re-assembled exactly as it was originally - less the kerf. Yes it is B. heavy! Mine was slid off the Ifor Williams trailer (like the machine body and base) down an inclined plane.

Bill mentioned a single converter, as opposed to two inverters, but converters are likely rather more expensive than two VFDs. Also no programming, variable speed - and with other cons, to boot!

Thread: A photo for anyone who ever claimed a Myford wasn't a "Proper Industrial Lathe"
03/03/2023 07:19:42

My tiny Raglan mill came from an engineering company. But it most certainly was not used for any production process. I don’t consider that to be an “industrial mill” just because it was used in a commercial enterprise.

02/03/2023 22:56:19

Nor does ‘one swallow’ make a summer, as they say. They also say that ‘the exception proves the rule’. Many a “proper industrial lathe” has been used by a hobbyist.

Reality rules.🙂

Thread: Centec 2B Mill buying
02/03/2023 22:49:29
Posted by Mark B on 02/03/2023 16:45:05:

Thanks for the replies. The machine is 3phase and I've only got a single phase supply in my workshop but I'm happy with setting up VFDs. The table motor as mentioned needs rewiring from star to delta. I found some photographs on this forum from someone who did this already.

Do people think the price of the machine is fair? I appreciate that you will pay a premium from a dealer, but they are able to get it delivered easily which as I live in Scotland is very handy.

My power feed runs on a 230V VFD, but remains wired in star config. I've never experienced any problem, as yet, with the reduced power. The spindle motor on mine, as a matter of fact, is running with a 220V VFD but is wired Star. But I have taken into account the reduced power output in this configuration for its duty.

I consider the 2B to be a fair improvement over the 2A (the knee operation, table size and headspace. Mine also has a long riser block, so even more height available over the table when vertical milling - and I don’t need to remove the vertical head to go milling horizontally.🙂

The power feed versions lose about an inch of long travel, if that is important and I really appreciate the DRO on mine. Avoids any backlash adjustments when positioning the work.

I find that supplier usually inflates the listed sales price somewhat above reality.

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