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fizzy25/01/2013 20:55:49
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The water pump on my 5" just locked solid and bent the 3/8 stainless ram like a banana! Total strip down required to remove it. I cant see how it can have hydraulicd but theres no sign of abrasion on it. Boiler was at 80+psi when I opened the regulator. Any ideas? (eccentric driven)

Nigel Hyde25/01/2013 21:15:29
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Hi

i had the same problem on my tich 2 weeks ago, but on the hand pump

i had fitted nitrile (?) balls and they had squashed themselfs and stopped me from getting water in the bolier, not ideal!

put stainless ones in and no problem

hope this helps

Nigel

fizzy27/01/2013 01:03:35
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ping ping ping !!

Mark P.27/01/2013 10:06:12
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By pass valve blocked?

Mark P.

fizzy27/01/2013 13:00:16
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Thanks Michael

It sounds like a geometry problem for sure, thing is I dont know how to put it right - any suggestions on do's and dont's? I waas always weary of it as I had to fasten the con rod to the top of the strap (as opposed to the middle) so that it wouls line up with the pump. This worked fine whilst running on air but bent when at steam pressure. Diving equipment - never thought of it as interesting....ust bloody expensive! Its all O ring technology, if an O ring fails you die, so we never ever modified equipmentface 10

John Hyde 127/01/2013 21:36:23
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Does appear you have given yourself the answer to the fault! Running on air, pumping nothing was easy,water at 80 psi?........surprised the strap didn't smash as well! I would guess the pumps therefore in the wrong position, requiring lowering. First thing to do is check out what you've got against the drawings for that loco.

(The suggestion of jamming nitrile balls was given earlier on the basis that all else was correct and that the loco had previously been running under steam with no fault.. We have had jamming clacks on two loco's,caused I believe by nitrile balls jamming in the clacks when at working pressure.One result was a smashed hand pump lever! Conversion back to Stainless balls solved the problem.)

fizzy28/01/2013 18:35:14
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Drawings.....there are no drawings! Apart from designing the joy valve gear its all been pen, paper and imagination!I neglected to count the angle/position of the pump body in relation to the eccentric when building it. Im loathed to strip it all out again as it runs so sweet. Another look, take some measurements and draw it in cad, see what can be done. Thanks.

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