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ben grenter03/02/2011 21:56:08
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Hi folks. i have aquired these bit of an engine from a friend, the only thing is there are no drawing or identification. he dosent know what it is as he aquired like this over 10 years ago. i do have a few details.

front wheels 4" dia x 1 5/16" wide
rear wheel 6" is dia 3/4" wide
boiler tube 2 5/8"dia x 10 1/4" long.
10 boiler tubes 3/8" dia x 6" long
cylinder bore 3/4 "

[IMG]http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n482/bennyg1000/03022011856.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n482/bennyg1000/03022011855.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n482/bennyg1000/03022011854.jpg[/IMG]

any help or guidance would be great.

thanks

Ben

ben grenter03/02/2011 22:44:51
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been doing a bit of looking and i t looks like the one at the bottom of this page. just need to find some plans now.
ben grenter03/02/2011 22:48:20
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dont think the first pics woeked, try these
 
 
 
 
 
Terryd03/02/2011 23:30:42
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Hi Ben,
 
To show a picture, copy the URL as you have done above, but then click on the 'Insert Image'' logo above the typing window (2nd from right) and then insert the URL into the field entitled "insert URL"
 
The image will then show in the posting as long as y6ou don't change the URL it will stay there. If you cause the URL to change in any way, e.g. by inserting a new picture into that set or album it will disappear . Don't ask how I know .
 
Regards
 
Terry
ben grenter04/02/2011 00:21:53
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http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n482/bennyg1000/03022011854.jpg

Ta da!
Terryd04/02/2011 09:19:29
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Hi Ben,
 
It looks like some of the parts from a traction engine or similar. More than that I can't really say.
 
Regards
 
Terry
Geoff Sheppard04/02/2011 10:34:34
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Ben
 
It looks very much (but not quite!) like Greenly's "The Model Engineer" Working Model Traction Engine in 1 inch scale.
 
The wheels of that are 4 inch and 6 inch, the boiler diameter is 2 3/4 inches and the cylinder is 5/8 inch bore.
 
The other 1 inch scale engine that is very popular is, of course,"Minnie", but I don't have the drawings to hand to check.
 
Hope this helps
 
Geoff
JasonB04/02/2011 16:46:48
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I'd say its Greenly's Davey Paxman design
 
There are some pics of a complete one onStation Road Steam.
 
Jason
ben grenter04/02/2011 22:30:17
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yeah thats what i have concluded. where can i get the plans from?????
JasonB05/02/2011 07:41:45
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Look back through an index of MEs to find what issues covered the build and then go an buy them, e-bay is a good source best to buy full volumes not individual mags.
 
You may also be able to get them from a local libruary or borrow from a ME club
 
Index here at least you know it was in the 20's
 
J
Terryd05/02/2011 09:35:36
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Hi Jason,
 
I don't know if you have looked recently, but there are very few full volumes of ME sold on eBay these days, usually very early years and they tend to go for ridiculous prices. I prefer the use of a library and scanner now. Mind you given this Government's attitude they may not be around for too long.
 
Regards
Terry
JasonB05/02/2011 10:09:08
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Last couple of volumes I bought about 4 months ago were £6 a set which is not bad, certainly better than £1 or more per issue. But as you say the earlier ones are becoming harder to find so cost a bit more.
 
This is a seller I have used several times who does whole volumes
 
J

Edited By JasonB on 05/02/2011 10:15:34

Geoff Sheppard05/02/2011 10:27:56
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Ben
 
I think that you will find the construction articles in 'M.E.' Volume 68 (1933), starting in Issue 1652.
 
Regards
 
Geoff
Nicholas Farr05/02/2011 22:28:28
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Hi Ben, I happen to have a spare vol 68, although it is minus the covers and avert pages. They have the proverbial rusty staples and stains but are totally readable on the text and illustrations. If you would like this volume, let me know. The introduction to these interesting machines "Modelling Traction Engines" by Henry Greenly, actually starts on pages 435-436 iss.1644  488-489 iss.1646  533-536 iss 1648  555-558 iss.1649 and 611-614 iss.1651 vol 67.
 
Regards Nick.

Edited By Nicholas Farr on 05/02/2011 22:45:51

Terryd05/02/2011 23:56:03
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Posted by JasonB on 05/02/2011 10:09:08:
Last couple of volumes I bought about 4 months ago were £6 a set which is not bad, certainly better than £1 or more per issue. But as you say the earlier ones are becoming harder to find so cost a bit more.
 
This is a seller I have used several times who does whole volumes
 
Edited By JasonB on 05/02/2011 10:15:34
 
 
Hi Jason,
 
They seem to be about £10 to £12 per volume now plus £7 to £8 postage which is getting quite expensive for me. I am lucky that I have access to bound volumes going back to 1944 in my local library. I can borrow them or copy them when I like. That's enough projects to keep me going I think I don't think I necessarily need any earlier volumes..
 
Best regards
 
Terry
JasonB06/02/2011 07:41:19
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They have gone up overnight and he seems to have sold 2/3rds of what was there yesterday, wonder if my posting got him a few sales
 
J
ben grenter14/02/2011 20:59:38
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i have just got a volume of 1933 ME's but it not the right one. anyone have the 1958 volume, i have one magazine from 1958 which seems to be the right one. just a copy of the relevant pages would do. any help please??
Terryd14/02/2011 21:40:34
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Hi Ben,
 
If you don't have any luck I will be able to get a copy, just let me know the volume and issue number plus the relevant page numbers.
 
Regards
 
Terry
ben grenter15/02/2011 21:41:13
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i have solved the problem .i have parts from two engines in one box!!!!! most are from the 1933 but cylinder and a few others are from the 1958 one. thanks for all your help.

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