Ward Lathe Clutch Help

Ive just been to try and sort out "slipping clutches" I was under the impression that the clutches were slipping, he adjusted the clutch adjuster nut inside and apparently this didnt help i was under the impression that with adjusting the clutch adjuster nut "so much" that this caused the handle to not stay engaged, it just walks back into the neutral position and doesent stay locked in either way.

So i thought making a thin spacer to pack the clutches out from the back so the nut wasnt so adjusted would make the handle stay in position again.

After an absolute NIGHTMARE making the spacer putting it all back together i said "are you sure its the clutches slipping and not just the handle locator not adjusted and causing the handle to not stay in position" he said "i dont know".....

So now thats what im thinking it is, after all this i think its just the little cam/lever thing with a roller on the end, not engaging properly and locking the handle in position, theres the forward and reverse lever and the fast and slow lever, and its the fast and slow lever that is the worst, it just doesent stay where it should.... and i was under the impression that it was the clutches all this time, but seeing as they are just 2 types of metal and no clutch material at all then there should have been plenty of adjustment left, for the handle to click over and keep them engaged.

Sorry if im not making sense ive been there 6 hours working on it, ill go back tomorrow and take the shim out, and see if the lever just needs adjusting.

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Thanks all

That's a REAL lathe.

Can't be many still running now

If you give the model/type that may help, they made quite a few variants

Edited By Ady1 on 16/02/2023 10:34:37

Its a Ward 3DS, we put it back together and one of the clutch baskets with a gear on the end is rattling about like hell.... if you ran it at full speed it would shake to bits and shatter, so the whole lot has got to come back apart, ill take the shim out i made and see why the handle isnt engaging properly, also the square keys that hold the clutches in, most of the pins have broken except 1, do these need to be drilled out and replaced?

I also couldnt get the main taper pins out to split the shafts they were hermetically sealed in there, so i just did what i could, i wouldnt mind but getting that top gearbox cover off is a nightmare, its about 50/60kg and nowhere whatsoever to grip it, but we managed once, tried to lift it off again and it kept getting wedged somehow and we were that tired and worn out by then we just couldnt muster up the strength to lift it off again, so its just running slow today tapping some threads.

Thanks all

Edited By Joe Hardisty on 16/02/2023 12:20:40

If you're doing a lot of awkward heavy lifts maybe a magnetic system would make life easier

There are various items on ebay

Do you have a manual?

Ward 2DS, 3DS, 2CA & 3CA Capstan Lathe Manual

The Ward 3DS is back together, new bearings and clutch plates, working a treat

Picture cant remember how i did it last time haha

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Edited By Joe Hardisty on 21/02/2023 15:05:52

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