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48DP gear cutters needed 14-1/2PA, no 4 and no 8

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TiddlerTad18/06/2022 09:36:47
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Hi
I'm in the process of building a Jerry Howell v-twin IC engine. I've managed to purchase number 5 and 7 cutters from RDG Tools, but I can't find a UK supplier with number 4 or 8. I've tried Tracey Tools, Home and Workshop Machinery, eBay etc. Some US suppliers have them but they are far too expensive after paying carriage and import duties.
I had considered converting to Mod 0.5 but I really want to stick to the drawing spec if at all possible. A gear hob isn't feasible either, as I don't have the necessary equipment (at the moment wink)
So, if there is anyone in the UK who would be willing to sell me either number 4 or 8 cutter, please contact me. My email address is [email protected]
For info, I live near York and I am covering the build on my YouTube channel (learning turning metal).
Cheers
Andrew

Edited By TiddlerTad on 18/06/2022 09:38:47

Hopper18/06/2022 09:51:31
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HPC sell a full range of DP48 gears readymade if you wanted to go that route. Not as much fun but maybe easier?

Brian Wood18/06/2022 10:18:13
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Hopper,

HPC gears will all be to 20 degrees PA and whilst they will mesh with the others, life of the gears thus meshed in service will be short

Regards

Brian

Hopper18/06/2022 10:58:44
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Yes you have to make them all 20DP. Still might be cheaper than importing cutters.

bernard towers18/06/2022 20:55:55
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Any reason for not using 20 deg gears?. They are stronger and tooling is more commonly available.

John Haine18/06/2022 22:01:11
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Make your own cutters by the button method?

Huub18/06/2022 22:47:23
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Making gear cutters isn't difficult and you can make them using a mill, a vice and a tapered drill (centre drill)

Making gear cutters and cutting gears

Hopper19/06/2022 00:06:11
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Posted by Huub on 18/06/2022 22:47:23:

Making gear cutters isn't difficult and you can make them using a mill, a vice and a tapered drill (centre drill)

Making gear cutters and cutting gears

Great video. Thanks for that.

DiogenesII19/06/2022 09:04:36
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For a light-duty application, depending how close the desired tooth count is to that of the cutters that you have, using those will make a pair of gears that mesh and run together acceptably.

For example if you need say, a pair of timing gears for a model engine, using a '5' cutter to make a 30-tooth instead of a '4', and '8' to make a 15-tooth pinion instead of a '7' is probably a realistic option..

..dependent on the sizes / desired clearance you may need to slightly adjust the centre distance..

I wouldn't use this method for a timepiece or power transmission, but for certain applications it will work and the results can be surprisingly good - involute cutters are a very loose approximation in any case.

If you want to try out the cutters that you do have, it's probably worth making a 'trial' pair in some easily cut material like brass, alu, or even acrylic, and seeing how they mesh..

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