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0 and 1BA Stainless Steel hexagons

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Andrew Phillips 410/12/2021 17:45:49
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Hi All, I wish to make a couple of 0BA special bolts, about 2ins long, in stainless steel. The only supplier of 0.423 A/F stainless bar stock I can find on the web only sells 1m minimum length @ £20.73, and charges £18.50 minimum postage. This would mean each bolt costs 20 quid! Does anyone out there know of someone who can supply short lengths of 0 and 1BA stainless hex at reasonable prices? I have tried e-bay, M Metals and MK Metals to no avail.

I could make up bolts using 6mm rounds and nuts (I have some 0BA stainless nuts from BA Bolts) cutting a short thread at one end and using epoxy adhesive to secure the 'head', and possibly hammering the protruding end over then facing off on my lathe, but I would prefer to do the job properly.

Speedy Builder510/12/2021 17:53:59
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As you say in the last paragraph and silver solder the nuts in place.

Andrew Phillips 410/12/2021 17:59:37
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Hi Speedy Builder5, a good suggestion but alas I do not have the equipment or knowledge to silver solder. I read an article about soft soldering stainless, is that any good?

JasonB10/12/2021 18:08:46
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Turn from round stock and machine hex head, not too much work as you say you only have a couple to make

Harry Wilkes10/12/2021 18:37:37
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Worth check out Keatley Metals link

H

duncan webster10/12/2021 22:30:00
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Use 10mm af, I won't tell anyone if you don't

Andrew Phillips 411/12/2021 10:32:11
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Duncan, I have a obsessively pedantic approach to mixing imperial and metric - I know it would be easier but it would always niggle me!

John Haine11/12/2021 10:47:07
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Don't think of it as 10mm but 0.394". There you go, it's imperial.

SillyOldDuffer11/12/2021 11:10:59
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Posted by Andrew Phillips 4 on 11/12/2021 10:32:11:

Duncan, I have a obsessively pedantic approach to mixing imperial and metric ...

Not so Andrew! An obsessive pedant would cheerfully pay £20 per bolt! Trying to cut costs is a dead giveaway: it proves you're a practical man at heart. Don't deny it, embrace the dark side.

devil

Dave

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Nick Wheeler11/12/2021 11:11:20
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Posted by John Haine on 11/12/2021 10:47:07:

Don't think of it as 10mm but 0.394". There you go, it's imperial.

6thou for a spanner isn't going to matter - 0.400" which gives a suitably random 2/5wink 2

File Handle11/12/2021 13:37:12
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Used a lot of metric 3.2 mm pop rivets recently, but drilled the holes for them with 1/8" drill. I regularly mix / interchange between metric / imperial measurement.

Speedy Builder511/12/2021 14:21:24
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Silver solder that size you can do on the gas stove, small kits on auction site will give you plenty for about £9, probably cheaper than buying hex bar. Make sure you get a kit for stainless steel, which can also be used on steel, brass, copper

Mike Poole11/12/2021 15:28:39
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I would go with Jason’s suggestion of machining the hexagon on a round bar, I have made quite a few custom fasteners for motorcycles and even used the degree markings on a swivel base vice to mill the hexagons, even a careful filing job can work ok and for a couple of bolts not to much of a drudge task. As I now have a hexagonal ER collet block this makes the job very easy on the mill. A filing rest for the lathe can produce the flats very quickly and accurately especially if you can index the chuck. Depending on what equipment you have or can borrow and a bit of lateral thinking will get the job done.

Mike

duncan webster11/12/2021 19:34:33
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Posted by Andrew Phillips 4 on 11/12/2021 10:32:11:

Duncan, I have a obsessively pedantic approach to mixing imperial and metric - I know it would be easier but it would always niggle me!

But BA is a fundamentally metric thread. 0ba is 6mm OD, 1mm pitch and the rest are a geometric progression.

duncan webster11/12/2021 20:43:22
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Posted by duncan webster on 11/12/2021 19:34:33:
Posted by Andrew Phillips 4 on 11/12/2021 10:32:11:

Duncan, I have a obsessively pedantic approach to mixing imperial and metric - I know it would be easier but it would always niggle me!

But BA is a fundamentally metric thread. 0ba is 6mm OD, 1mm pitch and the rest are a geometric progression.

And according to 2 sources on the interweb, the head size is 10.5 mm, which is 0.413"

Andrew Phillips 412/12/2021 14:08:22
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Dunca, you are absolutely right that the correct hex size for 0BA is 0.413 ins - finger problem on mobile phone keypad! I have decided to mill the heads and have just turned a piece of 1/2 in stainless to 0.477 in preparation to setting up the milling slide on my Super 7 this evening. Thanks all for your suggestions.

Andrew Phillips 412/12/2021 14:16:10
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Of course, my finger trouble shows why I try to avoid mixing metric and imperial - my fingers were made in 1952 and are thus firmly imperial, so when I use them on a modern metric keyboard errors creep in!

duncan webster12/12/2021 15:37:05
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Well mine are older, but they have no difficulty with metric, believe me it's a lot easier than irrational imperial

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