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Report of a glider crash

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edintheclouds24/03/2021 12:28:52
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Just seen this on the BBC news site, a AAIB accident report states, pilot was overcome with carbon monoxide from the engine bay during the flight.

BBC news report

Les

Grindstone Cowboy24/03/2021 12:44:51
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I'm sure some of the pilots on here can give a better answer, but I remember seeing one with a kind of fold-away engine and prop located behind the cockpit. I was quite impressed by the idea, but I suspect the crashed glider would not have been that type as the engine would be well outside the fuselage whilst running so no fumes could build up.

Rob

Roderick Jenkins24/03/2021 12:44:59
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Quite a lot

Motor Glider - Wikipedia

Peter Cook 624/03/2021 12:48:40
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Scheibe SF-25 Falke - Touring motor glider

Lee Rogers24/03/2021 14:00:43
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Known as an SLMG Self Launching Motor Glider . It requires a licence rating PPLSLMG to fly it . They have been around for over 50 years now. Retractable motors can be of the self launching type or sustainers that will not allow a take off but have enough power to avoid an outlanding. Outlandings can be hairy with 30m of wings and glide ratio better than 50 : 1 so sustainers have gained popularity. Self launching 2 seaters are popular for circuit bashing allowing many more launches in a day.

Dave Halford24/03/2021 14:01:21
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Clue is in the name.

How many gliders have motors - None

How many motor gliders have motors - all

Some have a fold away motor on a pylon for reduced drag, some look like a normal plane apart from the longer, narrower wings.

Andrew Johnston24/03/2021 14:26:31
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I've just read the AAIB report; as Peter says the aircraft was a touring motor glider. So more akin to a powered aircraft than a sailplane. I think current licencing distinguishes between self-launching sailplanes and touring motor gliders. I flew a Falke while doing my instructor training - not much to write home about.

Sailplanes and motors are now rather messy. Most self-sustainer engines are retractable. At one time the engine moved out on a pylon with direct drive to a propeller and is normally air start, as is my Nimbus 3DT. Some self-launchers extend the propeller but the engine stays in the fuselage, driving via a belt. This simplifies the pylon design, but is primarily for noise reasons. There are sailplanes that have a motor in the nose and a small propeller at the front where the blades fold back into recesses when not being used.

Tradtionally motors were 2-stroke petrol. But there are now also small jets and of course electric. The jets are impressive, but have the problem of inefficiency inherent in small gas turbines. Electric is a mixed bag. It promises much but so far doesn't quite seem to deliver. And of course battery fires are an ever present problem. There have been a number on the ground but I haven't heard of one in the air, as yet.

Andrew

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