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Bob Astill11/10/2019 10:25:27
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Hi all i have managed to find a Vertical Head for my M1 tom senior all be it in bits and with 2 damaged gears these are being made now i really need a drawing to see what goes where i have found some photos and part numbers to get new bearings in a search but these are not great would any one have one please.

I also need the seal number if anyone knows it?

Bob

fishy-steve11/10/2019 13:09:01
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Hi Bob,

Which vertical head are you interested in? S type or knuckle head?

Steve.

paul rayner11/10/2019 13:19:49
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Bob check your in box, also have you joined the tom senior group on yahoo, I used to be on that and the is loads of info on there.

regards

Paul

Bob Astill11/10/2019 15:20:56
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Posted by fishy-steve on 11/10/2019 13:09:01:

Hi Bob,

Which vertical head are you interested in? S type or knuckle head?

Steve.

Hi Steve not sure the difference between S type or knuckle but its just the small one it has no quill on it if that makes sense.

i hope Paul will have the drawing i need.

Bob

old mart11/10/2019 16:07:30
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You may be able to get answers on the Denford forum. Denford own the copyright on all the Tom Senior archives.

Bob Astill12/10/2019 07:49:24
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Posted by old mart on 11/10/2019 16:07:30:

You may be able to get answers on the Denford forum. Denford own the copyright on all the Tom Senior archives.

Thank you i will have a look.

Bob Astill12/10/2019 08:25:23
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Posted by old mart on 11/10/2019 16:07:30:

You may be able to get answers on the Denford forum. Denford own the copyright on all the Tom Senior archives.

Great site but still no blow up of the head their is a photo of the drawing i need lol so close but so far

paul rayner12/10/2019 08:40:26
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If I remember rightly the horizontal drive has bronze or oilite? bearings & the MT shaft has 2 bearings in it. 1 at the bottom which is held in place with the cover & the one at the top is held in place with a split screwed washer (the type you put a screw in so it doesn't come loose I don't know what you call them) there are no shims in there. You have to put the bearings on the shaft first and then slide the whole thing into the head.

your old bearings should have numbers etched onto them so you can identify them like that if all else fails

regards

Paul

Bob Astill12/10/2019 09:33:23
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Posted by paul rayner on 12/10/2019 08:40:26:

If I remember rightly the horizontal drive has bronze or oilite? bearings & the MT shaft has 2 bearings in it. 1 at the bottom which is held in place with the cover & the one at the top is held in place with a split screwed washer (the type you put a screw in so it doesn't come loose I don't know what you call them) there are no shims in there. You have to put the bearings on the shaft first and then slide the whole thing into the head.

your old bearings should have numbers etched onto them so you can identify them like that if all else fails

regards

Paul

Thank you for that Paul i have found the 2 bearing numbers and the to thrust bearing one and have ordered them i now need the number for the Oil seal and i think we are sorted.

Bob

fishy-steve12/10/2019 10:57:47
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Posted by Bob Astill on 12/10/2019 08:25:23:
Posted by old mart on 11/10/2019 16:07:30:

You may be able to get answers on the Denford forum. Denford own the copyright on all the Tom Senior archives.

Great site but still no blow up of the head their is a photo of the drawing i need lol so close but so far

Hi Bob,

The picture of the drawing is all I have. I managed to find it late last night. I was going to send it to you today.

I replaced the bearings in my knuckle head a couple of years ago. From memory the bearings were considerable more expensive than a metric equivalent.

If I had to change them again I might consider re-engineering the casting to take metric bearings.

Out of interest do you have a link to the bearings you purchased?

Steve.

Bob Astill12/10/2019 11:31:06
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Posted by fishy-steve on 12/10/2019 10:57:47:
Posted by Bob Astill on 12/10/2019 08:25:23:
Posted by old mart on 11/10/2019 16:07:30:

You may be able to get answers on the Denford forum. Denford own the copyright on all the Tom Senior archives.

Great site but still no blow up of the head their is a photo of the drawing i need lol so close but so far

Hi Bob,

The picture of the drawing is all I have. I managed to find it late last night. I was going to send it to you today.

I replaced the bearings in my knuckle head a couple of years ago. From memory the bearings were considerable more expensive than a metric equivalent.

If I had to change them again I might consider re-engineering the casting to take metric bearings.

Out of interest do you have a link to the bearings you purchased?

Steve.

Hi Steve i got the part numbers from a post on here somewhere the 2 thrust races i got from Ebay The MS9ACD was ebay and so was the LS10ACD i did google them but a big variation in prices

Bob

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