Madhatter | 26/08/2017 10:56:45 |
19 forum posts | Hello, I have just manage to get myself a Fobco Star and am converting it back to 240V, however, I have been told that I can still use the original 6 spur switch for 240V but I am unsure which terminals to use, I have a couple of photos, on each side there is a bank of three terminals and they have been written on showing 1,2 and 3 and on the other side, A, B and C. Any advice welcome. I shall wire up an NVR switch on the wall next to the machine but really wish to keep it original. I am still looking for a suitable motor, the Crompton 3 phase unit looks almost like new so shall be selling this one on or exchange/swap. Below is a link the the switch photos. |
Brian Wood | 27/08/2017 10:33:01 |
2742 forum posts 39 photos | Madhatter, I suggest you try the old trick used on 3 phase contactors which uses all the ways. Couple mains Live to 1 and A to motor. Couple mains Neutral to 2 and B to a link wire which is then coupled to 3 and take C to the motor. If you have a test meter then check that through first, if not a batten lamp holder and wire to that as a load before transferring it all to the motor. Brian |
Madhatter | 27/08/2017 10:49:04 |
19 forum posts | Posted by Brian Wood on 27/08/2017 10:33:01:
Madhatter, I suggest you try the old trick used on 3 phase contactors which uses all the ways. Couple mains Live to 1 and A to motor. Couple mains Neutral to 2 and B to a link wire which is then coupled to 3 and take C to the motor. If you have a test meter then check that through first, if not a batten lamp holder and wire to that as a load before transferring it all to the motor. Brian
Many Thanks Brian, I shall do this when I locate a single phase motor. Best Chris (Madhatter)
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John Haine | 27/08/2017 11:35:01 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | If you are thinking of buying a single phase motor, why don't you but a VFD instead? Probably no more expensive (on eBay) and will result in a much more versatile and quieter machine. |
Michael Briggs | 27/08/2017 12:27:54 |
221 forum posts 12 photos | +1 John, I made a nice Fobco Star out of two donor machines. It has a three phase motor and a VFD, runs very smoothly and rarely needs the belt moving on the pulleys. |
Madhatter | 01/09/2017 15:24:33 |
19 forum posts | I had contemplated this but I did not really wish to buy armoured cable and all that goes with it, I found VFD's around £130 + shipping for a decent one (though may be looking in the wrong place) and then the additional cost and messing about when I can buy a new Crompton motor for the same, £130-delivered. |
Ian P | 01/09/2017 16:21:08 |
![]() 2747 forum posts 123 photos | Posted by Madhatter on 01/09/2017 15:24:33:
I had contemplated this but I did not really wish to buy armoured cable and all that goes with it, I found VFD's around £130 + shipping for a decent one (though may be looking in the wrong place) and then the additional cost and messing about when I can buy a new Crompton motor for the same, £130-delivered. Chris New single phase motor or VFD? Its absolutely no contest! Seriously do go the VFD route, you will not regret it. Even if it cost a bit more (which if it was my machine it would cost less) it is worth the premium. As Michael said above. Its 10 years since I fitted a VFD to my Fobco and have never moved the belt since! That is spite of the fact that I use the machine for tapping M2 threads as well as drilling up to 16mm in steel (reduced shank drill) and also have deep counterbored holes 50mm diameter (with a sort of spigotted flycutter). I mounted my VFD to one side of the motor so have no need of screened or armoured cable. Ian P
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Madhatter | 07/09/2017 18:01:10 |
19 forum posts | Posted by Brian Wood on 27/08/2017 10:33:01:
Madhatter, I suggest you try the old trick used on 3 phase contactors which uses all the ways. Couple mains Live to 1 and A to motor. Couple mains Neutral to 2 and B to a link wire which is then coupled to 3 and take C to the motor. If you have a test meter then check that through first, if not a batten lamp holder and wire to that as a load before transferring it all to the motor. Brian I have decided to stay with my original plan and use a 240V motor which has arrived, I just wish to run through these connections again only where you say couple mains neutral to 2 and B, then link a wire over to 3, then take C to the motor, but I only have the three wires and two of those are earthed on the body. |
Hillclimber | 07/09/2017 18:14:53 |
![]() 215 forum posts 51 photos | Posted by Ian Phillips on 01/09/2017 16:21:08:
I mounted my VFD to one side of the motor so have no need of screened or armoured cable. Ian P
Ian, any chance of a photo? I am about to do the same thing and would be interested to see how you manages the bracketry. Cheers, Colin |
Madhatter | 07/09/2017 19:30:39 |
19 forum posts | Posted by Madhatter on 07/09/2017 18:01:10:
Posted by Brian Wood on 27/08/2017 10:33:01:
Madhatter, I suggest you try the old trick used on 3 phase contactors which uses all the ways. Couple mains Live to 1 and A to motor. Couple mains Neutral to 2 and B to a link wire which is then coupled to 3 and take C to the motor. If you have a test meter then check that through first, if not a batten lamp holder and wire to that as a load before transferring it all to the motor. Brian I have decided to stay with my original plan and use a 240V motor which has arrived, I just wish to run through these connections again only where you say couple mains neutral to 2 and B, then link a wire over to 3, then take C to the motor, but I only have the three wires and two of those are earthed on the body. It's ok, I got it...finally! Thanks Brian, it works a treat!
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Madhatter | 07/09/2017 19:33:10 |
19 forum posts | Now I shall rig it all up to an Nvc... photos of before and after coming very soon. |
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