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Adrian 215/05/2017 13:36:31
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Can anyone recommend a good sheet metal / fabricator / welder in my neck of the woods please. I'm in East Sussex Uckfield, Hailsham Haywards Heath area.

I need an extended swarf/ motor guard for the new slightly longer (Newton Tesla) motor I am fitting to my super seven. I do not want to alter the original cover.

It is a small job for a small workshop/business I think.

Thank you for your help.

Adrian.

ega15/05/2017 14:01:26
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Adrian 2:

I have a Newton Tesla-supplied motor (Australian) on my Super Seven and manage very well without an additonal guard. I will try to post a photo later.

I did have a sheet metal guard with the previous Myford motor.

PS If you look in my Miscellaneous album the first photo shows my old shop-made guard. If it is of any use to you (and if I can find it) you would be welcome to it.

Edited By ega on 15/05/2017 14:05:37

Adrian 215/05/2017 15:04:59
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Hello ega,

Thank you for your help and the offer of the guard, much appreciated, I will keep it in mind. A photo would be good if you can manage it.

Adrian.

ega15/05/2017 15:05:58
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Here's a photo of the NT motor with its black plastics fan cover as supplied:

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Edited By ega on 15/05/2017 15:06:14

ega15/05/2017 15:43:27
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And a rather better shot of the old guard which I have now found and photographed having added some millimetre dimensions:

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The guard was simply fastened by two 3/16" capscrews to the motor base - see album photo.

Adrian 215/05/2017 15:47:55
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Thanks for that ega. My motor has slots in the sides as well as the end cover so is in the line of fire.

Adrian 215/05/2017 15:58:25
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My new motor overhangs the mounting platform by about 80mm so your guard will not work for me. Food for thought though. Thanks.

Bazyle15/05/2017 16:50:57
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Make temporary cardboard one while you think of a better design to make in metal. In three years reinforce the duct tape holding it together. In 10 years think about the metal one again but make a new cardboard one which somehow won't be as good a fit as the trusty old one...................etc.

Adrian 215/05/2017 17:54:24
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Yeah, got that thanks. Been there done that !

Robbo17/05/2017 19:20:28
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Posted by Bazyle on 15/05/2017 16:50:57:

Make temporary cardboard one while you think of a better design to make in metal. In three years reinforce the duct tape holding it together. In 10 years think about the metal one again but make a new cardboard one which somehow won't be as good a fit as the trusty old one...................etc.

Cardboard Bazyle - are you living in the Stone Age? wink

What you need is a piece cut out of a plastic liquids container, such as vinegar, screenwash, etc, 2Litre, 2.5Litre, even 5Litre depending on size required. Provides top, 2 sides, and end all in one. Simply clamped between motor base and mounting plate.

I had one like this until one day decided on something smarter in metal. So cut, soldered, riveted, painted, fitted it; and the damn thing rattled and vibrated fit to bust. back to the plastic.

 

Edited By Robbo on 17/05/2017 19:21:36

Neil Wyatt18/05/2017 18:40:22
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Does the motor actually need a guard?

Most (modern) motors are pretty well sealed, and the fan guard - well, it guards the fan....

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 18/05/2017 18:40:37

ega18/05/2017 23:00:46
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Neil Wyatt:

The OP's "motor has slots in the sides as well as the end cover so is in the line of fire".

I would agree that he would have been better off with a sealed one

Hopper19/05/2017 00:32:19
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Even with a sealed motor, if you don't have a guard on there, the fan sucks oil and swarf in as it flies off the chuck/job and then blows it all over the drivebelt/headstock area. Over the years it can make an awful mess in there.

I found this out when cleaning up the old ML7 I bought a while back. I will be putting a guard on it as part of the reassembly. I have thought of getting a round metal kitchen bowl of the right size and mounting it over the fan guard, with suitable vent slots cut on the far side away from the line of fire of swarf and oil. The non-rattle plastic option sounds a good idea though.

Edited By Hopper on 19/05/2017 00:33:27

Edited By Hopper on 19/05/2017 00:35:12

Neil Wyatt19/05/2017 08:51:21
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Fair enough, I was going by the photo which shows a motor apparently identical to my TEC which is "Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled - TEFC (IP55) water tight and dust tight enclosure", I hadn't realised it was EGA's motor not Adrian's.

On my lathe I mounted the motor much further back than that on a Myford so no chance of the fan blowing swarf and coolant around.

Neil

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