princess of wales

hi , I construct a POW ....for the six wheels tender , I don't see anywhere the spacing between the frames ....

the drawing is poor and incomplete ,no rivets or fixation visible , no interior detail and York is 1000 miles away !

a little help was needed ! thanks epine 43 from France

ME issues 3422-23-24-25-26 have the tender

I have them ( and the reeves drawing).....only one half page of text for the six wheels tender , no dimension for the chassis ,, no rivets , no fixation , no interior , near nothing !

You may be able to use the net for details

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I am on the net ... the more needed detail is the spacing between the frame....

for the interior , the laser-cut parts give me a good view how it was.

I think this tender was riveted , but Reeves drawings was blank !

thanks

In the articles Martin says that the POW tender is very similar in construction to the tender for Nigel Gresley so I would say that the distance between the frames should be 6.375"

John

ah, ah , my first estimation was 160mm, so 162 mm is a good base !

the numerous photos on the net don't give little détails....

I have already buy photos , by NR of Yok , or e-bay, but always taken from the front angle !

the nigel gresley tender was interesting......it was exactly the same , or not ? it's possible to buy a drawing ? , and where ? Reeves ?

I have put the gresley tender pages in my album

I have the drawing set for Nigel Gresley and the wheel centres are not equal 7 7/16" and 6 5/16" I thought there should be 8 wheels not the 6 of Nigel Gresley.

Bob

Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 17/01/2015 19:57:42

many thanks ! all what I need are on the Gresley drawings....I hope to imprim these ...

the 8 wheels tender is normally detailed on the Reeves drawings , not the six wheels !

Some of the singles did run with a smaller 6 wheel tender later in life.

I think Martin refered readers to the Nigel Gresley tender for the general construction of the tender chassis. He only gives very brief details for the POW 6 wheel tender i.e. the frame plates and a general arrangement drawing. No details of buffer beams, frame stretchers etc.

John

Good evening all,

Having had a think about the question, I'm certain around the time the POW was described by Martin Evans I'm certain Dennis Monk wrote a couple of articles on the six wheeled tenders, it may be worth a trawl through the Model Engineers of around that time.

Regards,

Bob Youldon

Think that would be 1972 138 3433 and 1972 138 3434

Bob

thanks ! I get a look at e-bay for buying these 5 ME....but with 3 different postage , I can have a tremendous bill above £40 !!!! so , if anyone can send me the pages concerned by this tender , by internet or photocopy , I will be a big gift for me , and I am not ungrateful...

one month ago , I make the trip to Sandown Park , but don't see any POW !

my mail was : [email protected]

In my album, as above

As I am building a similar Midland railway model from Derby works drawings it is possible for me to offer some information. The dimensions in 5 inch scale 1-11.3 in mm are fr the 6 wheel tender between inside frame is 114 mm and between outer frame 156 mm. For the loco it is 161 mm between outer frames. As I understand the POW frame drawings dimensions are wider so adjustments would have to be made. Happy to help you more regards Herb.

many thanks !

hi,

after all your help ( special thanks to Ady 1 and Herbert ) my tender become a reality!

I use the brass parts of model laser, it's a great saving of time , but a great hole in my bank saving !

many thanks jean-louis

Glad we could help. Well done Jean-Louis