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Thanks to the generosity of Alibre, Model Engineers' Workshop Magazine is able to offer every reader of Model Engineers' Workshop a free six-month licence to Alibre Atom3D. Alongside this great opportunity, starting with issue 274 of Model Engineers' Workshop we are running a detailed tutorial series in the magazine. This page will be the 'hub' for links to example files, tutorials and more so make sure you drop in regularly to keep up to date!

Bazyle13/11/2018 15:19:19
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I've got some more memory now which hopefully will work but the website doesn't mention the disc requirements. Anyone notice what it takes up? I've only got 30Gigs left on my drive so do I need to offload some pictures to make more room? I'm thinking of getting an SSD if there are bargains on Black Friday but that's a week or two away.

JasonB13/11/2018 15:25:14
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The folder my version is in takes up 3.6Gb

mick13/11/2018 17:11:59
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Flushed by my initial success I've started on the crank assembly in the exercise section. The toggle was straight forward so I started the crank handle but selecting the' viewing and analysis' tab I only get a limited ribbon without the 'Pan' tab I'm supposed to click. All the other ribbons available don't have anything like the options shown in the exercise screen shots, does this mean that all the options required to design the crank assembly are only available when a full licence is purchased after the six month trial?

JasonB13/11/2018 17:36:20
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Mick, which page of the PDF is that to save me looking right through it?

I can't see any mention on going to Viewing and Analysis in the section about the handle?

Edited By JasonB on 13/11/2018 18:07:40

JasonB13/11/2018 18:51:23
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Mick, somehow you have opened the tutorial for Alibre Design not Atom you want this one as Atom does not have those pan/rotate icons. You need this one

Don't think you will be missing much as I have never used them in all the time I've had Alibre.

Edited By JasonB on 13/11/2018 18:51:49

Neil Wyatt13/11/2018 18:56:45
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Posted by Andrew Johnston on 09/11/2018 10:33:26:
Posted by JasonB on 09/11/2018 09:57:47:

Another thing while learning is to save regularly then if you really do muck up close the part without saving and then when you open it again it will be back at the last saved position.

+1 - absolutely essential!

Andrew

There's an autosave option - choose a directory and a frequency and it will save you much wo

Bazyle13/11/2018 22:27:40
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Thanks Jason. Memory working. Download tomorrow with any luck.

Graham Titman16/11/2018 15:50:17
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Hi how do you do a delete if you make a mistake one wrong mouse click and no matter how far you have got you have to start again.Sketch 45 before you ask and getting very frustrated

JasonB16/11/2018 15:55:01
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If you want to delete something while sketching there is an undo arrow top left which will allow you to go back one click at a time.

Next option is to delete one of the sketches that make up your part to do this right click the sketch, extrusion, etc in the list down the left of the page and you have the option to delete or edit it.

David Jupp16/11/2018 16:03:37
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Graham,

Within a sketch you can always delete parts of the sketch if they are wrong (or you can move them, resize them etc.). You must go into 'select mode' (the cursor icon in the ribbon) - otherwise the sketching tool you have been using remains active, once in select mode you can do your delete, drag etc.  You can also exit the sketching tool currently in use by pressing Esc.

Don't worry about sketch number getting high - you can rename sketches (it is good practice anyway to give a meaningful name).

 

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Edited By David Jupp on 16/11/2018 16:22:45

Graham Titman16/11/2018 17:47:05
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Thanks Jason i am using a laptop big mistake the icon is only match head size.David when you get so far 35 times and cannot get any further it's called ********** frustrating not good practice.No offence but the magazine instructions do not always match what's on the small screen.Is it possible to put it on another computer?Thanks Graham

mick16/11/2018 18:04:50
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Right, I'm getting on quite well with the first exercise but I'm trying to generate the six spoke pattern of the wheel, everything is okay except there's no 'axis 6' in the design explorer to establish the centre so I can't complete the operation, I've tried clicking on most options but all that's displayed are the three normal axis selections. Thanks in anticipation.

Neil Wyatt16/11/2018 18:10:07
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Posted by Graham Titman on 16/11/2018 15:50:17:

Hi how do you do a delete if you make a mistake one wrong mouse click and no matter how far you have got you have to start again.Sketch 45 before you ask and getting very frustrated

You may be trying to make your sketches too complex.

It's best to keep the sketches simple, and produce complexity by building up parts from multiple sketches.

As well as the undo button, if you go wrong you can delete, edit or 'trim' unwanted elements of a sketch.

I started trying to draw complex shapes exactly how I wanted them, but discovered it's best to roughly arrange what I want by eye then edit and use dimensions to move the elements and get exactly what I want.

You can move to another computer, I think David explained how to deactivate the licence on one computer and move it to another further up this thread.

Neil

JasonB16/11/2018 18:28:25
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Mick, two pages above you should have created "axis 6" page 93 of the pdf.

 

Graham, if you are getting stuck at the same point, post a screen shot and tell us what you are wanting to do.

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David Jupp16/11/2018 19:12:09
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If icons are really small - one potential cause is a relatively small, but hi-resolution, screen. If you saw High DPI, or 4K in the marketing blurb for your computer you may suffer from this,

There are some changes you can make to help - see this article

Transferring to another computer is dealt with here , it's written for Alibre Design, but the process is the same for Atom3D. You can install on multiple computers, but only have the activation live on one at a time. The non-activated computers work in 'Viewer' mode (can't edit or save).

mick17/11/2018 14:39:41
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Hi. Jason. That was my mistake, completely missed that operation, but, I've generated the rectangle that will become the wheel, entered all the required information and the circle generates, only problem is its about half an inch away from the spokes. When I've generated the rectangle it remains red, when I select 2D the out line is blue, but I can't get the whole rectangle to become blue, is this a problem. I generate the rectangle at a point away from the spoke as indicated in the pdf. Thanks.

JasonB17/11/2018 16:12:22
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Mick, when you draw the rectangle that will become the rim one side of it should be in line with the end of the spoke as I have shown with the red arrow. Once rotated this will give the right diameter rim that will be in contact with teh spoke ends not spaced away from it.

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David Jupp17/11/2018 16:22:09
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The rectangle which is revolved to form the wheel rim is shown in the exercise manual as drawn just touching the end of one of the spokes.

atom3d wheel rim.jpg

Rectangle corner indicated by circle 3 in the Manual should be at same Z co-ordinate as end of spoke.  Are you definitely sketching on the YZ plane ?

The rectangle is only blue whilst being 'dragged' - as soon as you finish placing it (click on second corner) it'll switch to another colour. The image in the manual looks to me as though it has been snapped just before clicking that second corner.

Does you wheel rim have a diameter that is too large, or is it 'out of plane' with respect to the spokes?

 

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David Jupp17/11/2018 16:33:55
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You may be able to fix the position of your rectangle by applying a co-linear constraint between the spoke end, and one side of the rectangle.

co-linear.jpg

Neil Wyatt17/11/2018 16:49:10
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Posted by mick on 17/11/2018 14:39:41:

Hi. Jason. That was my mistake, completely missed that operation, but, I've generated the rectangle that will become the wheel, entered all the required information and the circle generates, only problem is its about half an inch away from the spokes. When I've generated the rectangle it remains red, when I select 2D the out line is blue, but I can't get the whole rectangle to become blue, is this a problem. I generate the rectangle at a point away from the spoke as indicated in the pdf. Thanks.

Can you share a 3D screenshot?

It should be easy to get it all lined up, but we need to know how it's 'out'.

Thanks

Neil

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