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Jim Guthrie08/01/2015 11:06:02
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John,

 

My original Myford ML10 was a fairly early one - No. V111034 - and it has the type of topslide mount which will fit in the long crosslide you have been supplied with - i.e. angled stub on underside of topslide which is locked by two shaped pins in the crosslide tightened by square headed screws. I purchased a replacement long crosslide from Myford a few years ago and it was a straight swap with the original crosslide fitted to my lathe.

 

However, I had a look in the "Myford ML10 Lathe Manual" by Ian Bradley, published in 1970, shortly after the lathe appeared on the scene and on Page 24 the topslide details shown are exactly the same as yours. So it looks as though the very first ;lathes had your arrangement which was then changed by the time I bought mine in 1973

 

Jim.

Edited By Jim Guthrie on 08/01/2015 11:06:34

Edited By Jim Guthrie on 08/01/2015 11:08:09

Jim Guthrie08/01/2015 11:21:25
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John,

 

Just as an afterthought, but I wonder if the Super7 topslide base will be compatible with your topslide and the replacement crosslide to give you a way out of the problem. Maybe someone with a Super7 could measure the slide dimensions to see if they are the same as your ML10 ones.

http://www.myford.co.uk/acatalog/K24.-TOP-SLIDE-BASE--A2076-678.html

If not, a complete Super7 topslide assembly might be a way out, but a bit expensive.

 

Jim.

Edited By Jim Guthrie on 08/01/2015 11:22:44

Edited By Jim Guthrie on 08/01/2015 11:23:40

john pickens08/01/2015 12:49:22
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Hi Jim,

Thank you for your input and I agree with you entirely.

I am awaiting a reply from RDG Myfords on the subject,but thought it might be wise to seek some advice on the forum.

I will post a thread when I get a definite answer to this problem.

John.

john pickens08/01/2015 12:54:16
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Would anybody be willing to let me have the dimensions of the swivel base which holds the top slide to the cross slide on a Super 7 for me to compare whether it will fit my ML10 please.

John.

john pickens08/01/2015 16:04:29
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DRO unit fitting to cross slide rearMounting for carriage & cross slide DRO unitMounting for carriage DRO unitTailstock DRO unit diplayx y Axis carriage DRO unit 2Cross slide DRO unit 3Sensor mounting 5New link beltCross slide DRO unit 2Cross slide DRO unitx y Axis carriage DRO unitTailstock DRO unitSensor mounting 4Digital rev. counter working 2Digital rev. counter workingSensor mounting 3Sensor mounting 2Digital rev. counter sensor mountingDigital rev. counterAs promised some photos of the finished mods on my ML10 lathe so far.

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Jim Guthrie08/01/2015 18:32:27
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John,

 

What a well kitted out ML10 and it looks in excellent condition. I do like the large hand wheel on the saddle - a much better option than the standard ball handle supplied on mine.

One thought I had about using the Super7 base is that the tool seat might be raised since the centre height of the Super7 is higher than the ML10.

 

Jim.

Edited By Jim Guthrie on 08/01/2015 18:33:08

NJH08/01/2015 19:11:13
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John

Another worthwhile mod I made to my machine was tumbler reverse. Whilst its normal function in screw cutting was not used all that often the ability to disconnect the gears was. I purchased a kit of parts to do this but I'm afraid I don't remember where now.

Here is a pic just a small cut-out to the guard needed. You will see that I also made a leadscrew clutch - a very good mod !

ml10 leadscrew clutch.jpg

I hope you enjoy your machine as much as I enjoyed mine.

Regards

Norman

Robin King08/01/2015 19:45:45
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Norman

If memory serves correctly it was Dave Noble who suppied the tumbler reverse kit, tho' as far as I'm aware it's no longer available.

john pickens08/01/2015 20:18:57
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Hi Jim,

Glad you like it so far.

The ball handle on the saddle had to go I'm afraid,but then these machines were made at a lower budget years ago to make them more affordable and they do offer potential to bring them up to ones own standard,do they not.

I do agree with you on the height change using the Super 7 swivel base but then it could be possible that the ML10 top slide may just be smaller in height than the Super 7.I really need to find this information.

John.

john pickens08/01/2015 20:25:02
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Hi Norman,

I do like the idea of a tumbler reverse and you appear to have made an excellent and neat job of yours.

Also the leadscrew clutch is a must and I was fortunate enough to have one already fitted on mine when I purchased it some years ago.( Wouldn't be without it )

John.

Robbo09/01/2015 10:27:57
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John,

I did this quick sketch of an old topslide base on the back of an envelope. Measurements with a digital caliper.

Don't forget to allow for the gib strip.

If you want the base to try then drop me a line (PM).

s7 topslide base-002.jpg

john pickens09/01/2015 12:46:10
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Thank you for this info ,much appreciated.

Will let you know asap.

John

PS do you prefer Robbo or Phil?

john pickens09/01/2015 14:19:08
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Just checked the measurements.

Top dovetail for my top slide is 37.5mm base is 28mm.

My cross slide bore is 35.0mm.

My height from top of cross slide to top of top slide base is 21.5mm.

Thank you for your input anyway, at least I now know that the Super 7 top slide base is not compatible and so the search for the correct one continues.

John.

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