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Stub Mandrel27/09/2012 20:23:11
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 26/09/2012 23:12:51:
Posted by Stub Mandrel on 26/09/2012 21:58:33:

'Lobate'

Neil

True ... but that's a rather broad description. Lobate

It reminds me of the comment that all Crows are black birds,

but not all black birds are Crows.

Lobate is tehw ord for teh symptom, not the actual shape. But 'trochiod' isn't correct either, the shape is a Reuleaux polygon.**LINK**

Neil

Michael Gilligan27/09/2012 20:49:03
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Posted by Stub Mandrel on 27/09/2012 20:23:11:
Posted by Michael Gilligan on 26/09/2012 23:12:51:
Posted by Stub Mandrel on 26/09/2012 21:58:33:

'Lobate'

Neil

 

True ... but that's a rather broad description. Lobate

It reminds me of the comment that all Crows are black birds,

but not all black birds are Crows.

 

Lobate is tehw ord for teh symptom, not the actual shape. But 'trochiod' isn't correct either, the shape is a Reuleaux polygon.**LINK**

Neil

 

Reuleaux ... as mentioned, and linked, in my post. dont know

Correct me if I'm mistaken but, in the case of centreless grinding; I believe it's specifically "triangle" because there are two grinding wheels ... same effect as you sometimes get with a two flute drill.

MichaelG.

 

Looking here, perhaps I am wrong about the triangle.

... Although this seems to support my belief that "triangle" is the typical fault condition.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/09/2012 20:56:46

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/09/2012 21:06:14

Michael Gilligan27/09/2012 21:10:45
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Drifting even further from the original topic ...

This is worth a look

As, most definitely, is this.

 

MichaelG.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/09/2012 21:17:26

Stub Mandrel27/09/2012 21:14:01
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> Reuleaux ... as mentioned, and linked, in my post. dont know

You don't seriously expect me to re-read the entire thread before replying

Neil

Michael Gilligan27/09/2012 21:24:57
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Posted by Stub Mandrel on 27/09/2012 21:14:01:

> Reuleaux ... as mentioned, and linked, in my post. dont know

You don't seriously expect me to re-read the entire thread before replying

Neil

teeth 2 No ... but I would recommend you look at the second link in my post, above [just edited]; especially the bit about the Wankel engine.

MichaelG.

Stub Mandrel28/09/2012 20:54:09
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Hi Michael,

I skipped the maths, but interesting to see the theory about how a lobate broach can be used to make a square hole.

I used to have a MKII RX7; if people think silent electric cars are spooky they ought to try being in a wankel-engined car when the over-rev warning goes off. Bicycle clip time!

Neil(Why does "fixed centrode" make me think of Stanley Unwin?)

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Michael Gilligan28/09/2012 21:59:01
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Posted by Stub Mandrel on 28/09/2012 20:54:09:

Hi Michael,

I used to have a MKII RX7; if people think silent electric cars are spooky they ought to try being in a wankel-engined car when the over-rev warning goes off. Bicycle clip time!

Neil

I always fancied one of those Mazdas ! ... Somewhere in my archives I think I still have an article from "Cars & Car Conversions", where they tuned-up the early saloon, simply by fitting a free-flowing exhaust system. If I find it, I will let you have a copy.

MichaelG.

David Littlewood28/09/2012 23:21:19
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On the subject of constant-width sections, it is worth noting that a 90 degree V-block will not always detect this deviation from roundness. For example, a 7-sided constant width section will show zero deviation in a 90 degree block as measured vertically above the V. (If you doubt this, those in the UK can try it with a 50p piece.) A similar false pass will apparently be recorded by shapes with 9, 15 or 17 undulations, though I haven't tried this.

There is in fact a British Standard setting out in great detail the tests required to establish roundness (BS 3730, 1987, if you are interested). You may need to use several V-blocks of different included angle to establish true roundness, though a block of 72 degrees will work for all symmetries up to and including 18.

There is an infinite family of constant-width shapes, of which the symmetrical examples are only special cases.

David

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