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Michael Gilligan23/08/2023 09:40:44
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The material references are because that’s what is required for the standard test procedure

… You need to ‘read between the lines’ in a lot of other documentation to realise that Copper is an accelerator angel

MichaelG.

JasonB23/08/2023 09:52:40
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page 10 gives a guide to how the strength drops depending on the material

SillyOldDuffer23/08/2023 10:36:12
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Posted by Zan on 21/08/2023 21:33:53:

I have just had a braked own due to a failed Locktite jointed sleeve.

I think it’s due to too much clearance. I used 601 which needs a gap of up to 4 thou.

The big question is does this apply to the total gap between the parts. ie bore dia minus 4 thou per side giving 8 thou difference total, or is it just 4 thou difference.

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As I read the spec, 601 can cope with total gap (both sides) of up to 0.1mm. So the side clearance of a round rod in a round hole should be no more than 0.05mm (about 2 thou)

In general the fit should be kept tighter than the 'up to' figure, tighter the better.

My experience:

  • fresh glue essential because old glue gradually weakens with age.
  • cleanliness is usually vital
  • gap-fillers are a compromise. Thick bonds are weaker than thin bonds.
  • Whether a key is needed or not depends on the type of glue. I don't think 601 needs a key.
  • glue not a good idea if the joint gets hot

Dave

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 23/08/2023 10:37:20

Michael Gilligan23/08/2023 11:12:20
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Posted by JasonB on 23/08/2023 09:52:40:

page 10 gives a guide to how the strength drops depending on the material

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… and, without claiming to really understand the chemistry, I would hazard a guess that [for brass] the drop to 0.4x strength is consistent with the accelerated curing time that I mentioned .

MichaelG.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 23/08/2023 11:15:08

Michael Gilligan23/08/2023 11:34:19
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For general reference … It may be worth repeating this, from a post a couple o& years ago:

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: __ The standard ‘Pin and Collar’ test is briefly described here:

SORRY … that link is dead crying 2

The ISO and ASTM standards are technically similar, but ISO uses Metric units

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MichaelG.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 23/08/2023 11:45:04

Michael Gilligan23/08/2023 11:59:47
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For anyone really interested, here is a 188 page PhD thesis

**LINK** https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/144148736.pdf

MichaelG.

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