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Stephen Quandt13/06/2023 03:24:33
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Hello from America, I have more info about the issue's I am looking for, they're in the model engineer workshop,the article's were about Rolls Royace having a tube bender for all the tube and pipe on their wonderful car's. Also any one who may have a print/drawing for a small bender that you will share I welcome to hear from you, what I am needing to bend is 1/8,3/16,1/4,5/16 copper tube, since it is hard to find mm sizes here in Ohio that is what I have. Thank you all for your time.

Hopper13/06/2023 04:59:46
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Posted by Stephen Quandt on 13/06/2023 03:24:33:

Hello from America, I have more info about the issue's I am looking for, they're in the model engineer workshop,the article's were about Rolls Royace having a tube bender for all the tube and pipe on their wonderful car's. Also any one who may have a print/drawing for a small bender that you will share I welcome to hear from you, what I am needing to bend is 1/8,3/16,1/4,5/16 copper tube, since it is hard to find mm sizes here in Ohio that is what I have. Thank you all for your time.

Which issue of MEW? My index shows no tube bender article for MEW 94 or 95. Do you have the author's name?

PS EDIT: Looks like it is in issues MEW 94 and 95, listed as a pipe bending machine. Author name is Hunt. Published 2003. Anyone got a copy they can share with Stephen?

Edited By Hopper on 13/06/2023 05:07:39

Ady113/06/2023 10:11:16
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MEW pipe bender

Hopper13/06/2023 10:17:44
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Posted by Ady1 on 13/06/2023 10:11:16:

MEW pipe bender

Wow, that is some pipe bender! Quite a project in itself.

Ady113/06/2023 10:22:51
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A Quorn pipe bender

Hopper13/06/2023 12:10:29
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Posted by Ady1 on 13/06/2023 10:22:51:

A Quorn pipe bender

laugh Just needs the ball 'andles.

Martin Connelly13/06/2023 13:00:33
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This is the CNC pipe bending machine where I worked doing similar work to Mr Hunt. This was the first go using some CA104 Al Bronze bend tooling I had made for 1/4" stainless tube.
The Hilmor bender linked to in an earlier post worked similarly to the one designed and built by Mr Hunt. A manual draw bender with bullet or plug mandrels in the bore.
We had similar issues to him regarding being pushed to outsource work because "sub-contract make it cheaper". I and a colleague went on trips looking at a few potential suppliers of bent pipes and tubes, one near Bury St Edmunds and one of them was South Lincs Fabrication (now SL engineering I think) who were quite a small outfit at the time. Turned out SL Engineering were making bent pipes and tubes for RR. One was a big no-no, it was like going back to the industrial revolution and would never have met our quality standards. SL Engineering were able to meet our quality requirements so were asked to quote for some bent pipes and tubes. Some of the parts being quoted were 3/4" stainless tube with one or two bends. We had a cycle time for cut off, deburr, degrease, bend, clean and blank off totalling about 12 minutes at a cost rate of £50/hour. Due to economy of scale (we batched all 3/4" tube parts so there was only one tooling setup cost spread over many parts), with material cost this came out to a cost per item of about £12. SL Engineering were asked to quote for one part consisting of 8 of these bent tubes (all slightly different) and the quote came back with a cost per piece of over £100 so a total cost of over £800 for something we were costing at less than £100. There was also an initial setup cost to buy suitably sized tooling that was about £1500. We kept the work. I think this reflects the difference in cost rates RR were working to compared to £50/hour and how much SL Engineering could charge and still look cheaper than in house production.
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Check out:

THIS

While I use my little hand-held bender for vehicle brake pipes, my CZ has several formers for bending pipes. A very useful tool to pick up if you see one offered second hand.

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