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David Standing 122/11/2017 22:06:02
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 22/11/2017 21:58:51:

I don't deny it's brass, but it proves I'm not just an armchair machinist :-P

 

Where there's brass there's muck devil

Actually, I did some brass and copper turning a couple of weeks ago, and the swarf from those two colours mixed is quite satisfying!

 

 

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Andrew Johnston23/11/2017 11:23:21
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 22/11/2017 21:58:51:

I don't deny it's brass...............

I'd have never guessed it was brass, I assumed EN1A or similar. What were the rpm and feedrate?

Andrew

Brian G23/11/2017 13:31:13
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Personally, choosing a mini-lathe, in our case an ex-display model, "sold as seen" by Warco, was a matter of risk management. Having researched a little, we knew what problems and limitations we might encounter and the costs in time and money that could be involved. It needed adjustment (particularly the motor mounts - the belt slipped making a noise that caused me to remove the headstock to examine the gears), but once this was done, and some minor adjustments carried out it performs exactly as expected. When I needed to order parts and accessories all it took was a phone call and they were with me the next day. Yes, the speed controller could blow (although given the volume of these machines that are sold, the absence of advertisements for replacements suggests it is unlikely), in which case I would probably be looking for a scooter motor, but there is no guarantee on the motor of a second-hand machine either.

Looking at the number of articles on the web detailing improvements and corrections to the Chinese machines, it is possible to get the impression that they are all at best "kits", but then again, a quick look at the number of articles on Myfords to be found in ME over the last half-century could make you think the same thing. As far as quality is concerned, unsurprisingly the components aren't going to be the best that money can buy (in the Cromwell catalogue an 80mm 3-jaw chuck is more than half the price of a mini-lathe!), but at least they aren't worn out by 20+ years of 40 hour weeks.

Quite apart from the fact that my son wouldn't have got most ex-industrial machines upstairs, for us the risks of purchasing one outweighed the benefits. In most cases the machine cannot be seen (or perhaps more importantly heard) running, and if some of the machines I used in industry were anything to go by, a bed regrind costing more than the mini-lathe might have been the least of our worries. I wonder how many machines we would have needed to look at before finding one that is both cheap and good? Even minor things like missing change gears could add up at more than £10 each. assuming they can be found.

Brian

MW23/11/2017 13:39:07
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 22/11/2017 21:58:51:

I don't deny it's brass, but it proves I'm not just an armchair machinist :-P

I would imagine it would prove quite a challenge to "machine" an entire armchair? A bit cold to sit in an EN1A seat as well.

I suppose I should use hot rolled stock to prevent the arm rests from bowing in the middle due to the internal stresses. 

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Neil Wyatt23/11/2017 14:45:13
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Posted by Andrew Johnston on 23/11/2017 11:23:21:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 22/11/2017 21:58:51:

I don't deny it's brass...............

I'd have never guessed it was brass, I assumed EN1A or similar. What were the rpm and feedrate?

Andrew

Only the swarf. The other shots are EN1a.

For brass at 2" (the swarfy shot) it's top speed, as deep as you want and as fast as I can turn the handle

David Standing 123/11/2017 15:29:18
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 23/11/2017 14:45:13:
Posted by Andrew Johnston on 23/11/2017 11:23:21:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 22/11/2017 21:58:51:

I don't deny it's brass...............

I'd have never guessed it was brass, I assumed EN1A or similar. What were the rpm and feedrate?

Andrew

Only the swarf. The other shots are EN1a.

For brass at 2" (the swarfy shot) it's top speed, as deep as you want and as fast as I can turn the handle

My kinda calculations! Does it work? Yes. What were the feeds and speeds? Dunno! wink

Simon Baldwin 130/07/2018 13:44:06
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Well thanks for your replies, I took onboard everyone's views, for the time being I bagged a real bargain on eBay, I got a Chester centurion lathe that keeps popping the fuses, I got it for ?25 buy it now! Now I'm not bothered about the motor or control board, as I will put a three phase motor and vfd on it, at that price I can't loose.
larry phelan 130/07/2018 18:47:02
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Going shopping with that kind of money and those requirements ?,I wish you luck ! Live in the real world,it,s not that bad.

This is like house hunting,you list off ten things which you consider important,if you can get seven of those,you are doing well. No way will you get all ten,or in your case,all three.

Despite what you have been told about Chinese machines/motors ect,take it all with a large pinch of salt.

They do make some crap [like many others I could mention ],but they make some good stuff too. My Chinese drilling machine 1983,is still going strong,as is my band saw,2001,as is my lathe and my mill,about 20 years old by now,so dont shoot them down too soon.

The bottom line is that you cannot expect too much for that kind of money,that,s common sense.

Buy something that suits for now and perhaps upgrade later on.

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