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Neil Wyatt12/03/2017 13:30:19
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Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 11/03/2017 10:47:34:

More to the point - This is where your tax has been spent upholding complaints such as this. I wouldn't like to hazard a guess as to how much the complaint has cost tax payers. I do not consider it a false claim by jaguar, no more than using a "Transit" style van which is used in the workplace. I was hoping that one of the reasons for Brexit was to reduce bureaucracy- sadly I am wrong (again).
BobH

Another Post-Truth 'factoid'.

From the ASA werbsite: "The ASA is funded by advertisers through an arrangement that guarantees our independence. Also, we receive no Government funding and therefore our work is free to the tax payer."

Neil

Martin Connelly12/03/2017 13:56:22
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Where I work we have a site wide ban on moving around when using mobile phones. This is because vehicles such as battery powered lift trucks move around relatively quietly and often the driver has poor visibility due to the mast in front of them and sometimes the load as well. Instructions are to move to a safe location and then use the phone without moving around. When I see someone moving when using a mobile anywhere now I think they should be standing still. My colleagues have reported similar feelings. When we have tried to tell people who are walking when using their phone on the site that they need to stand still we have had problems getting their attention. I have even had one person telling me that they were standing still while they kept on walking.

Martin

steamdave12/03/2017 14:10:11
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Posted by John Flack on 11/03/2017 13:09:59:

I find it curious that drivers are subject to a series of NO NOS in respect of phones, alcohol etc but pedestrians are exempt. From above comments distracted pedestrians are just as likely to be the cause of an accident, but we,or they cannot enforce current legislation on motoring. I guess seizing a pushchair and child for non payment of an on the spot fine might seem harsh, but would certainly concentrate the mind. Not sure how 6 points and a ban would work!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody has mentioned CYCLISTS. Have no insurance, pay no road tax but think they own the road as they weave around slowing up other traffic which cannot safely pass.

Over here (Ireland) a new law allows a cyclist to report a driver to the Gardai for driving too close to them! Guess who's word is believed?!

Dave
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Edited By steamdave on 12/03/2017 14:10:43

Fatgadgi12/03/2017 16:32:25
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Not sure how this topic became a rant at cyclists, but the law may probably believe the account of a cyclist over that of some motorists for very good reason. 3 feet clearance, which I guess is what some drivers are winginging about, at a possible closing speed of 45mph on country roads is nothing.

The problem is a tiny minority of idiots who think that they should make a point, or feel it's the car's right. Pathetic.

I'm a cyclist (sure you've guessed) and like the vast majority of cycling adults, I own a car and pay shed loads of tax. And I cause less nasty stuff to be pumped into the atmosphere (unless it's after a curry night), cause less strain on the NHS hopefully and I don't do a lot of damage to the roads.

Finally, I'm a member of a cycling organisation, so I'm also insured, if that has any relevance !!

Gordon W12/03/2017 17:00:41
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This morning I was driving my little van along a very narrow country road, just about room for a large car. Came to a blind double bend ,slowed to about 20 mph as usual. First saw the bale spike, then the rest of big 4WD tractor with a trailer, maybe 20 tons all coming towards me , sort of sideways. The driver still had his mobile stuck in his face. Lucky the trailer had brakes and they worked. Pedestrians, cyclists, horses etc. have a right to be on the roads, the rest of us are licensed to use them.

Mike Poole12/03/2017 18:03:28
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I cycled to school from the age of 11 from my village to a school in the city, despite heavy traffic which was much the same as it is today I learned defensive cycling and never had any problems. Today's cyclists seem to think they can do no wrong and the rules of the road and the Highway Code do not apply to them. They do not seem to understand the limitations of other vehicles to see and avoid them. LED lights seem to be used to dazzle other road users rather than illuminate their path and alert people of their presence, I dip my headlights for cyclists but the dickheads who use badly set ultrabright lights get full beam. They seem oblivious to the fact that a peloton of 40 odd bicycles is nearly impossible to overtake safely on country roads, I am a patient person and have followed these inconsiderate groups for miles to get to a safe passing place, tractors have to pull over to release following traffic but these people would never think of one second that they might be inconveniencing anyone one else. Frustrating other road users is only going to get them killed as only pedestrians are more vulnerable than them. With consideration and understanding of everybody's problems we can all enjoy the roads safely. Living near Oxford which is probably the cycling capital of the U.K. We probably have more than the average amount of clueless cyclists as well as students.

Mike

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