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Michael Gilligan07/01/2017 18:26:13
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Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 07/01/2017 12:31:12:

Hello All,

I have made a big mistake! Andrew is quite correct in what he says, The tooling socket is always in coaxial alignment with the lathe (chuck) axis! Providing it is in one of the detent positions!

I had checked previously and for some idiotic reason thought that the axes did not align. So egg on my face and some embarrassment too! I think that my current medication has a lot to do with my errors. Maybe I should be very careful when using rotating machinery. The medication definitely says that I should not. A very depressing thought!

Apologies to everyone for time wasting,

Andrew.

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Not necessarily an idiotic reason ... Maybe a recollection of seeing a Jacot Tool.

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https://goo.gl/images/wollIo

MichaelG.

Andrew Johnston08/01/2017 17:26:49
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Posted by Chris Hembry on 07/01/2017 12:34:37

Not really, a production capstan lathe has the capstan pivoted vertically at 90 degrees.

For non-capstan lathes it seems to depend upon the whim of the designer, and on tool clearance. A bed mounted capstan with the turret at an angle has more clearance as the tools index round. For clarity this is an example of a capstan unit with the turret at right-angles to the bed:

capstan.jpg

Andrew

Andrew Johnston08/01/2017 17:29:01
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Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 07/01/2017 12:31:12:

So egg on my face and some embarrassment too!

I wouldn't worry about it; I'm an expert at making mistakes.

Andrew

Andrew Johnston08/01/2017 21:11:57
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Posted by Emgee on 07/01/2017 13:00:05:

Andrew, the 8 tool turret shown in your pictures album demonstrates the need to locate the turret in the correct plane, otherwise why have a keyway groove machined in the turret mounting shaft ? The key will no doubt align all of the turret tool holders centres with the lathe centre when indexed to any tool position.

Errr, I don't follow?

The capstan and indexing mechanism are mounted on a 'solid' collet. The grooves in the large diameter are the indexing grooves and index each tool location axially in line with the mounting collet. The mounting collet has a keyway, but this is a loose fit on the corresponding internal pin in the tailstock shaft. The capstan mechanism and shaft can be rotated several degrees before the collet is tightened. The collet is held in place with a drawbar similar to the R8 system. This may help illustrate the arrangement:

tailstock capstan assembly.jpg

There is no external keyway in the mounting shaft. The only thing that stops the whole shebang rotating is the lever operating mechanism that mates with a pair of the series of holes to the right. As shown here:

tailstock.jpg

The mechanism is pretty loose, so the capstan unit can rotate several degrees either way. Indeed it does so when operating, depending upon the direction of cut. However, alignment is not lost. I have never done anything special as regards alignment when fitting the capstan unit.

As an aside indexing is done when the capstan is pulled back against the tailstock casting. This pushes on a spring loaded lever which disengages the indexing pin allowing the capstan to be spun by hand to the wanted position.

Andrew

Andrew Tinsley10/01/2017 19:13:49
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Hello Tim,

My sentiments entirely!

Andrew.

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