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Thread: Safety gloves
14/07/2023 19:38:32

The thin gloves must also be tight fitting. If you are gettng within a thou or so of the moving part you are too close glove or not

Edited By Robert Atkinson 2 on 14/07/2023 19:39:07

Thread: Paints and Preservatives
14/07/2023 11:27:28

Hi Frank,
POR-15 is a brand, not product so can't comment. On the Patina Preserver I'm dubious. Lots of buzz words but little hard data. It does say at the bottom " Clear protection lasts for approximately 12 months depending on conditions " this does not inspire confidence. If after 6 months it starts flaking off what do you do? Re-apply, strip it all off? It is also expensive.

Robert.

Thread: Safety gloves
14/07/2023 11:17:47

The most frightning thing I ever saw done on a lathe without an actual accident was at work. An older engineer parted off a bit of 1" thin-wall tube and then with it still running, wrapped bit of emery strip round his index finger and stuck it in the bore to smooth it. I could not say anything in case it distracted him. as soon as hiss finger came out I hit the E-Stop. When I asked him to think about what he had done he went very white and had to sit down....

Thread: Aircraft General Discussion
14/07/2023 11:03:03

There has been a Catalina / PBY over the village recently. Got a couple of snaps today. Not great quality, overcast, raining and shot from a window. Canon M100 and EOS-M 55-200.

catalina-1.jpgcatalina-2.jpg

Thread: Safety gloves
14/07/2023 08:35:46
Posted by Bill Phinn on 13/07/2023 21:59:51:
Posted by Robert Atkinson 2 on 13/07/2023 21:55:20:

Any action that would cause a tight fitting nitrile glovedhand to be drawn in without tearing would almost certainly do the same to a bare hand.

If you must have gloves they are the best choice but must be tight.

That's not advice I would endorse. I've seen a hand drawn in by a combi drill when the user was wearing close fitting nitrile gloves. A wire brush walked [or rather ran] up the user's arm and caused a nasty injury, though fortunately without life-changing results.

My point is that in that circumstance the wire brush would have done the same thing without gloves.
Gloves are only a hazard when they are MORE LIKELY to be caught than bare skin or are STRONGER than bare skin. Tight fitting thin nitrile gloves are neither more likely to be caught or stronger than skin.
There will be edge cases, that I'm sure will be quoted, were the nitrile glove may be a little worse, but they are rare. That smal risk must be balanced against the hazards the gloves are protecting against.

So what gloves would you endorse? I did say "if you MUST have gloves...."

Robert.

Thread: 2 pole or 4 pole for Myford ML7R
14/07/2023 08:25:02
Posted by Steviegtr on 13/07/2023 22:31:09:
<BIG SNIP>

Are you getting confused by the inverter setting for a 50Hz supply or a 60Hz supply as some countries have. Here in the UK you would set the inverter up for 50Hz. The speed settings are a different parameter & in many cases can be set from 0 to over 100Hz. My Myford is set at about 60-65Hz max Which in the right gear runs just over 2000rpm.

I would not want to run it at this speed & usualy it never gets taken above 1000. Yes the motor cage is the same for a 2 pole & a 4 pole motor ,so not much chance of doing any damage overdriving it. Definately a 4 pole as the 2 pole will stall out under load. 2 pole motors are usually found on fans. Or any machine that does not require high torque.

Steve.

The VFD does not care what the mains frequency is. I think you mean the base or rated frequency of the MOTOR. This is used by the VFD to calculate the correct output voltage for any given speed. If the VFD also allows input of the motor voltage rating you can use either 50 or 60 Hz as long as you also use the voltage for that frequency. If the VFD base voltage rating (not actual voltage) is fixed then you use the frequency for the motor that relates to that voltage.

There are two motor damage related limitaions on the maximum speed you can run a given motor on a VFD. First is mechanical and even if it is not stated in the available data a 4 (or 6) pole motor will run at the same speed as a 2 (or 4) pole of the same construction / model. Second issue is voltage spikes and harmonics from the VFD. Modern motors are more resistant to these and "inverter" rated motors have additional insulation.

Robert.

14/07/2023 08:01:57

I was busy last night and missed this thread:

I recently fitted a 3 phase motor and VFD to my ML7 and after asssessing all the parameters I fitted a SIX pole motor and a larger (75mm) pulley on the motor.

The 6 pole motor is even smoother and quieter than a 4 pole, has more torque (for the same power) and the larger pulley is kinder on the belt. Even with tension off, the old belt would take a slight set around the motor pulley adding to noise and vibration when started.
It helped that the NOS 1/2 HP (0.37 kW) 910 RPM TEFC motor was only £40. A 1/2HP 3 phase motor is more than enough power for an ML7. The Gamak 6 pole I got is larger than a typical 0.37kW 4 pole to provide the torque so is very rugged.

The motor construction is identical to the two and four pole so is rated to the same speeds. Generally best use is made of a VFD when using it to run the motor at higher than rated (nominal mains frequency) speed. A modern inverter rated 4 motor will typically be good to at least 120Hz and a 6 pole to 200Hz but check the datasheet.

A two pole motor is not an viable option for the ML7. It's too fast and less smooth due to increased torque ripple. This can actually be seen in the surface finish of turned items.

Robert.

Thread: Safety gloves
13/07/2023 21:55:20

Any action that would cause a tight fitting nitrile glovedhand to be drawn in without tearing would almost certainly do the same to a bare hand.

If you must have gloves they are the best choice but must be tight.

Thread: Do you need an oil change with less than 10,000 miles in 10 years?
13/07/2023 17:03:11

Having had a coulple of older Fiats with the multijet engine I can tell you that they recommend 3 years as the maximum calender time between changes. As others have said low mileage due to short journeys allows contaminates to accumulate in the oil.
The DPF equipped Multijet engines don't have a mileage based oil change. The engine computer tells you when to ghange the oil based on usage. Part or this is because DPF regereration causes diesel to get into the oil reducing it's performance.

Robert.

Thread: when you go for a pee ...
13/07/2023 12:35:04

If you've been chopping chillies both

Thread: Cheap refillable Gas Lighters
13/07/2023 07:32:52
Posted by Michael Gilligan on 13/07/2023 07:07:37:

Yes yes

MichaelG.

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Edit: __ The problem might be considerably simplified if I just concentrate on finding a way to bypass the filling- valve on the lighter … then, any convenient gas source can be connected.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 13/07/2023 07:13:50

Michael,

Did you see my post about using the head from a "long reach" type lighter?
These have the burner head connected to the tank by a tube. This may be easier to connect to say a blowlamp or gas stove tank and valve.
Additional benefits:
Easier to mount a small burner
Tank away from heat source
adjustment away from heat source
Adaptation under lower pressure
Adaptation not permanenty exposed to pressure.

Robert.

Thread: Some help please needed on remote controls
12/07/2023 20:34:28

More to bump your post than anything, but:
How about a pair of bike brake cables for the regulator and a speedometer cable for the reverser? Whatever you do the regulator should be fail-safe to closed. Maybe just a spring at the loco end.

Or if you have a large budget I can design and build you a wireless servo control system

Robert.

Thread: Cheap refillable Gas Lighters
12/07/2023 20:18:29

If you get one of the long-reach disposable lighters they have a tube connecting the burner to the head. It would be easier and safer to connect the small tube to say an old blowtorch or gas camping stove.

Robert.

Thread: Making an alternator that charges 'properly'
12/07/2023 20:09:17

Mark,
I'm happy to be proved wrong but I've been working professionally with this stuff for years.

One thing is you refer to inverters, these are not the same as VFDs even though they may have a lot in common. Can you provide a model number for a VFD which can be used for unbalanced star connected loads? The point is that they are not intended to drive star or single phase loads so the electronic design and control software are not designed to support them. The phases are generally not independent of each other. All the current suppled by one phase must return through the other two. Most VFD inbalance protection is to protect the output devices not to protect the load from loss of phase. Inbalnce requires at least one phase to produce more power and excessive voltages. A device may survive inbalance when running at less than it's rated load (<33% for example) but that is not efficent.
Why do you use a Delta-Star transformer in your workshop?

Robert.

12/07/2023 14:51:25
Posted by Mark Rand on 11/07/2023 20:21:46:
Posted by Robert Atkinson 2 on 11/07/2023 12:28:08:

There are two problems with using a VFD to power aircraft avionics other than the safety of no mains isolation.

1/ The output is "delta"
2/ Harmonics from the PWM.

1/ means it is OK for balanced loads like fans but most avionics need a neutral return. It can be solved by a delta star transformer. This also fixes the isolation issue.
2/ needs a filter, maybe just series inductors, but may be specific to the VFD model.

Been there, done that.

Robert.

Point of order:-

If the inverter has balanced positive and negative DC busses, then it can produce star output as easily as delta. That's just a matter of a centre tap on the HF (DC-DC or AC-DC) converter transformer that generates the DC bus voltage in the first place.

Regards

Mark

That is not correct for a VFD. There are number of issues. Firstly the VFD does not have a HF converter transformer and does not use balanced positive and negative buses. They just rectify the incoming AC to a single DC bus The topology relies on an isolated load.
Additionally the arrangement you describe will only work for a balanced load. Any inbalance between phases will affect the voltages so the "neutral" will not be at 0V with respect to all phases.
To provide a star output without a transformer requires active control of the star point (neutral) voltage. This requires it's own power driver effectively adding a fourth phase driver and additional control complexity.

Robert.

Thread: Sealing between skirting and floorboards
12/07/2023 07:52:27

Sikaflex EBT+ in white or clear. Can be over painted.

Robert.

Thread: Hot air engines and Boilers
12/07/2023 07:50:48

Welcome to the forum
:Bump

Robert.

Thread: Balancing Bench Grinder Wheels
11/07/2023 12:36:30
Posted by Nicholas Farr on 10/07/2023 23:17:26:

Hi DMB, yes in the UK any commercial place has to have persons holding a certificate of training of the abrasive wheels regulations 1970, to change abrasive wheels, which does include angle grinders etc, and those persons should be registered in the firms/companies files. Anyone using grinders for their own use, don't have to have anything, but they may have to for changing wheels for anyone else. However, the dangers and pitfalls are just the same, and the safety aspect should be treated the same, as they can maim and kill wherever they are used.

Regards Nick.

The 1970 regulations were repealled. see

https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/hsg17.pdf

Robert.

Thread: Making an alternator that charges 'properly'
11/07/2023 12:28:08

There are two problems with using a VFD to power aircraft avionics other than the safety of no mains isolation.

1/ The output is "delta"
2/ Harmonics from the PWM.

1/ means it is OK for balanced loads like fans but most avionics need a neutral return. It can be solved by a delta star transformer. This also fixes the isolation issue.
2/ needs a filter, maybe just series inductors, but may be specific to the VFD model.

Been there, done that.

Robert.

Thread: One stroke or two?
11/07/2023 12:14:38

There was a discussion on a similar desin on here a while ago.

Wavey thing = swashplate

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