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Thread: Cost effective way of measuring 90degrees very accurately on Milling machine
02/12/2018 14:39:48
Posted by JasonB on 02/12/2018 13:55:05:

But what do you call perpendicular? There is no spec for the accuracy of the sides so at that sort of price I would not expect them to be any better than a £40 Grade B square, maybe less.

The OP has said he does not want to buy squares that don't state the spec so why buy that?

Edited By JasonB on 02/12/2018 13:55:48

I wasn't referring to the particular one in the ARC link just that frame squares in general are made perpendicular on all sides close enough that they come fitted with an insulator for handling them lest you heat the top edge and push them out of square with heat from your hand.

Now that the class of machine has become apparent I guess it's all immaterial since it's not a very rigid design anyway.

02/12/2018 13:52:17
Posted by Men Ifr on 02/12/2018 13:09:50:

By precision square I mean one of these type of things. I don't know your location but if you were near to me in Kent I could loan you mine.

Arceuro do one that is claimed to be 4 arc seconds, which is plenty good enough for what you need.

Thanks for the offer Pete but I'm in Warwick

I think the frame levellers are just that - I need to measure 90deg and their tolerance (I believe) refers to detecting and angle from 90deg horizontal.

Frame squares have all four sides finished perpendicular to each other. They are very versatile for doing alignment work.

01/12/2018 19:20:03
Posted by Men Ifr on 01/12/2018 18:57:50:

Buy or borrow a decent precision square. The top and sides are perfectly square to each other and it will have a sensitive bubble with graduations. You can set the square on the table, against the column ways, against the mount for the head etc and compare measurements. The graduations will tell you how far out any surface is.

I have several 'precision' squares - only the usual stuff that is relatively cheap and does not come with a tolerance - I do not believe they are 90deg - one possibly 0.1mm out over 100mm which seems quite poor (for what I want) any-one else I know will not have a genuine precision square made to a tolerance.

Only the starret seems to have a good tolerance but is £££ but maybe worth it it it would get a lot of use (who knows...)

By precision square I mean one of these type of things. I don't know your location but if you were near to me in Kent I could loan you mine.

Arceuro do one that is claimed to be 4 arc seconds, which is plenty good enough for what you need.

 

Edited By Pete Rimmer on 01/12/2018 19:22:25

01/12/2018 18:09:08
Posted by Men Ifr on 01/12/2018 14:21:43:

I would like to check the column on my milling machine for left/right and forward/back alignment.

The usual tramming the head in via dial indicator is no good, or at least I have worked out I have a head parallel to the table but the column is not straight i.e. in the past I have corrected the column tilt to get the head parallel but all that does is mean I correct the not 90degree head to column by making a corresponding not 90deg column to base. So when I move up/down I have side/side or front/back movement as well - not good!!

So to correctly set-up I need to 1st have a plate or similar that is a reference 90degrees then move the head up and down and adjust the column angle to track that. Then I can adjust the angle of the head knowing both would then be 90degrees.

So.. how do I measure 90degrees - currently I tried a ground 90deg angle plate but that turns out to be far from flat so I have no faith in the angle accuracy either.

The only thing I've found to quote any accuracy is this starret gauge at £90 but perhaps is the best option...

https://www.starrett.co.uk/shop/precision/shop_tools/precision_steel_square/?item_id=BM1408

Any other options/thoughts?

Buy or borrow a decent precision square. The top and sides are perfectly square to each other and it will have a sensitive bubble with graduations. You can set the square on the table, against the column ways, against the mount for the head etc and compare measurements. The graduations will tell you how far out any surface is.

Thread: WM 240 cross slide
30/11/2018 21:20:22

Could be that they machined the top surface and tee slots first then used those to mount the slide inverted to machine the bottom and vee ways.

Thread: Tungsten Alloy
27/11/2018 20:43:07

How about grinding down some spent carbide milling/turning tips? They are quite heavy for the size.

Thread: WM 240 cross slide
27/11/2018 15:07:04

That cross slide is badly warped. It's not sitting on the ways properly and the tee slots are all skewed. Even if you're past your warranty I would raise it as an issue with the retailer.

Thread: Southbend 13" lathe.
25/11/2018 19:34:04
Posted by Bill York on 25/11/2018 12:32:31:
Posted by Pete Rimmer on 25/11/2018 11:51:35:

Steve Wells' website is pretty much the go-to repository for South Bend info and literature.

**LINK**

How much of a refurbishment are you doing? I'm currently renovating a Heavy 10. Bed and saddle re-ground, all the other ways re-scraped. Full strip and rebuild of the rest of the mechanicals and of course re-painted all over.

Edited By Pete Rimmer on 25/11/2018 11:55:06

Ground up strip and rebuild, repair as and when needed, no regains or scrape, new paint and I will be keeping it and selling my other lathe which is more suited to a model maker which I an not.

I don't blame you for not wanting to grind the bed, it's quite expensive and now that Brian's retired I don't know who else I'd take it to. For sure though I would give serious consideration to working over the cross slide and compound ways. I don;t think I've ever seen a used lathe more than a few years old that didn't need some kind of attention to the minor ways.

25/11/2018 19:30:29

South Bend wicks are much larger than 1/4" Either 7/16" or 1/2" I didn't measure mine but they are quite fat with a spring around them.

Thread: Turning a tapered tube queries
25/11/2018 12:10:06

You can't turn the taper with the compound? That's a pretty steep taper with a set-over and tapered inside and out makes it worse to hold. I'd drill some 1.5" stock 19mm and then turn the inside taper until the outboard ID is 32mm then repeat it on the outside taper with the same angle setup. Part off and de-burr to finish.

Thread: Southbend 13" lathe.
25/11/2018 11:51:35

Steve Wells' website is pretty much the go-to repository for South Bend info and literature.

http://www.wswells.com/

How much of a refurbishment are you doing? I'm currently renovating a Heavy 10. Bed and saddle re-ground, all the other ways re-scraped. Full strip and rebuild of the rest of the mechanicals and of course re-painted all over.

 

Edited By Pete Rimmer on 25/11/2018 11:55:06

Thread: It's a thread Jim, but...
24/11/2018 20:37:31

I can't see any reason why you would be unhappy with that Robin. Looks perfectly good to me.

Thread: Machine/hand reamers?
21/11/2018 22:02:51

The whole reason that a hand reamer has a long taper is to prevent the thing you're worried about, but if you're using the reamer in a machine either powered of hand-turned, buy machine reamers.

Thread: Lathe Thread Stop
20/11/2018 17:39:15

The CVA/Monarch lathe comes with a threading stop built-in. It allows two turns of the cross slide for fast retraction then 2 turns in again to meet the same mark. Advancing the tool into the cut is done by swinging the top slide around.

Thread: J&S 540 surface grinder question
19/11/2018 18:10:00
Posted by Alan Waddington 2 on 19/11/2018 17:16:37:

Anyone out there have a J&S 540, am wondering how freely the wheel spins when not under power.

The older ones with plain bearings used a wick-fed system to keep oil flowing to the spindle. The oil was flung up into a reservoir and drained down a gallery to the wicks. These type won't turn as freely as the bearing spindle types and they will be heavier to turn until they have been warmed up before use.

Thread: Machining cast iron
18/11/2018 15:12:12

Use back gear and make sure you have a good grip on the part.Turn the part slow and take a healthy cut.

Thread: Truing up
16/11/2018 17:04:41

You have it right Bill the diamonds (or CBN) are held in a binding matrix which should erode at a slow rate to expose fresh cutting edges as the erosion releases worn-out diamonds. The make-up of the binder determines the 'hardness' of the wheel and the size and density of the abrasive medium gives the wheel various other characteristics.

Some wheels do not erode because the diamonds are electro-plated onto a metal carrier, but the aluminium wheels with the brownish-coloured cutting edges certainly can be dressed.

John Rudd, you can use various methods to hold an ally part for surface grinding, just as you can actually surface grind aluminium, brass, 300-series stainless etc. Or you could simply bolt it to the table through the centre hole.

15/11/2018 19:03:11

I read somewhere of a guy who used a green wheel on his surface grinder to true the face of his CBN wheel.

Thread: Quick release hook
14/11/2018 23:44:35
Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 14/11/2018 22:48:23:
Posted by Pete Rimmer on 14/11/2018 22:16:29:
Diving is a no-no simply because of visibility. Lots of divers have told us so, otherwise we would just reconnect new chains to the existing sinkers on the seabed without raising them. (we are not using bags to raise them)

Find better divers. I had guys working at 24 metres down rigging up a concrete cutting setup in zero viz by touch alone. If I told them that it was impossible to attach a chain in zero viz they would fall over backwards laughing.

**LINK**

Edited By Pete Rimmer on 14/11/2018 22:17:28

Edited By Pete Rimmer on 14/11/2018 22:18:46

How much do you pay these divers along with all the attendant support gear?

When you tell me, I will laugh as well.

This is all about economics. A tug to lay the moorings wants several £k's poss £6-8K to be confirmed

A local friendly tug guy used to do them for £ 50-00 each as he was passing, minimum 10 at a time. Just because he was friends with us all. Unfortunately he passed away & his family will no longer hire the tug to us

A Flotation bag costs £1000 & will last several years .We can do the job ourselves using our own group launch at times to suit us. Ie not all in one day. So when someone wants a single mooring we can put 1 in & not pay the minimum fee.So for 40 moorings we would charge £ 40-00 each, we would make a small profit for our fund & have a free flotation bag ready for next time

But all we need is to design a quick release hook

I've no idea of your economic situation Sam, you didn't say. When you said you'd asked lots of divers I presumed that they were at least somewhat professional ones. A proper outfit could do it but you're right they are in no way cheap, quite the opposite.

14/11/2018 22:16:29
Diving is a no-no simply because of visibility. Lots of divers have told us so, otherwise we would just reconnect new chains to the existing sinkers on the seabed without raising them. (we are not using bags to raise them)

Find better divers. I had guys working at 24 metres down rigging up a concrete cutting setup in zero viz by touch alone. If I told them that it was impossible to attach a chain in zero viz they would fall over backwards laughing.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fjvd2154o6cg4lo/divers.jpg

Edited By Pete Rimmer on 14/11/2018 22:17:28

Edited By Pete Rimmer on 14/11/2018 22:18:46

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