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Thread: Wheel and Pinion Depthing
12/09/2022 14:38:32
Posted by roy entwistle on 12/09/2022 14:29:03:

Sorry yes they are cycloidal. It was just that yours don't look like wheels that I'm used to.

Still like to see it depthed with a pinion

Roy

Camera battery just died! Will get photos later.

12/09/2022 13:38:58

This site quotes 2.25 x Mod for involute gears.

12/09/2022 13:23:56
Posted by roy entwistle on 12/09/2022 13:20:26:

Thorntons quote 2.95 x Module up to and including 0.45. Which I work out to be 0.885mm Using Thornton cutters of course. How accurate is the OD of the wheel. No teeth + 2.76 x Mod

Roy

Aren't Thornton cutters cycloidal? I'm using involute.

12/09/2022 13:00:06
Posted by roy entwistle on 12/09/2022 12:48:29:

They don't look deep enough to me. I would like to see one depthed with a pinion

Roy

I'll try to take a photo.

Ivan Law quotes a DoC of 0.65mm for Mod 0.3. Other sources told me 0.675mm. I went for 0.67mm.

12/09/2022 11:58:12

Hi Martin, with my project, it's going to be mainly pinions driving wheels for a calendar and a lunar train.

I am wondering if my tooth profile is ok.

I put my wheels on the scanner and set the dpi to 1200 and got quite good results. Here are 4 different wheels, 73, 64, 60 and 48. All but the 48 crossings are part filed to shape.

gear scan 2.jpg

Can anyone see any fault with the profile?

Steve

12/09/2022 11:01:59

Thank you for all the replies.

I realise that it is a transfer tool rather than a measurement tool and that is how I intend to use it.

I was just interested in what the best distance actually was. I'm glad I did as the accumulation of extra 0.2mm's on the wheel train meant I had to change my design a bit.

I'm happy with the meshing but would like to understand why there is such a big discrepancy. the blanks were all turned to within 0.01mm of textbook and DoC the same.

Steve

11/09/2022 17:44:27

Hello, I have been trying out my newly made depthing tool with a variety of Mod 0.3 wheels and pinions.

On measuring across the runners, the distance is consistently 0.2mm more the theoretical (sum of pitch circle radii). Any less and they bind. Plus 0.25mm gives a good mesh.

I expected it to be more than theoretical but not that much. Am I missing something here or does this seem normal.

By the way, the tooth form is involute.

Cheers

Steve

Thread: Micrometer Depthing Tool
07/09/2022 09:42:56

I think I paid about a fiver each for mine, maybe less.

Steve

06/09/2022 16:50:30

I picked up a few of these tiny M&W micrometer heads some years back and I've used them for a few projects.

depth1.jpg

Here are the component parts.

depth2.jpg

The locking nut knurls are scrap gears. The runner locking screws are M1.6 Allen screws with the head diameter reduced. I drilled them out with a 1mm bit for a couple of mil then loctited brass rod into it and filed flat to length. This prevents any damage to the runners when locking in place.

depth3.jpg

And here's the tool in action.

depth4.jpg

depth5.jpg

Cheers

Steve

Edited By Steve Crow on 06/09/2022 16:51:10

Thread: Dasqua measuring equipment any good?
30/08/2022 17:13:59

I've got a set of Dasqua digi calipers and they feel as good as my MItuyo. Lovely and smooth and nice feel.

I bought it because it was the only 100mm caliper I could find and I needed something compact for my watchmakers lathe and other small machines. Batteries seem to last for ever.

I also have a Dasqua 0-5mm analogue dial indicator, again bought because it was the most compact I could find. This isn't up there with my Mituyo's but perfectly adequate and I've used it 2 or 3 times a week for 5 years now.

In my opinion, they are good value for money and I would buy from them again.

Steve

Thread: Telescopic Gauges - Technique?
29/08/2022 10:34:21

I find that using a micrometer stand makes it a lot easier when measuring bore gauges.

Steve

Thread: US16E Ejection Seat Model
24/08/2022 18:47:09

Amazing. What is the scale?

Steve

Thread: Milling/Routing Brass Sheet
16/08/2022 11:33:38
Posted by Peter Cook 6 on 16/08/2022 11:15:52:
Posted by Steve Crow on 16/08/2022 11:00:24:

Sherline do a pulley kit to increase spindle speed to 10,000 but the faff of changing pulleys every few days puts me off.

Doesn't the Sherline High speed system have two concentric pulleys, so swapping from 10,000 max down to the other (2200 it seems to be) is just a question of shifting the belt on the pulley set rather than changing pulleys.

You're right, I hadn't noticed that!

Thread: Removing fine burrs
16/08/2022 11:05:44
Posted by Martin Kyte on 15/08/2022 19:14:37:

Personally I would not worry over much. The burrs will disappear with first meshing with the pinions. Of course if you are making Daniels grade watches that may be different.

regards Martin

Thanks Martin. When I've finished making my depthing tool, I'll give them a good run round with a pinion and see if that does the trick.

Thread: Milling/Routing Brass Sheet
16/08/2022 11:00:24

I have considered something similar Martin but mounting it would involve much butchery.

If I could find a flexi drive that would fit through my main spindle, that would be ideal.

Sherline do a pulley kit to increase spindle speed to 10,000 but the faff of changing pulleys every few days puts me off.

What sort of diameters are the cutters you mentioned and the depth of cut?

Steve

16/08/2022 10:15:53

Thank you Jason , I thought I was at the limit with depth.

It is not a question of speeding things up - my thought is the less passes I have to make, the less chance of an error!

I have a CNC rotary table so I cut the hub and rim under power and hand feed for the spokes.

Thread: Removing fine burrs
16/08/2022 10:08:55

No, I haven't started on these wheels yet, they are straight from the milling machine.

I have tried beyond 1200 but a tiny burr remains on the teeth.

15/08/2022 18:16:22

I've cut a number of small clock wheels.

cross1.jpg

I find that when I try to clean up/polish the face of the wheel, whatever method I use, it throws up very fine burrs on the teeth.

I've tried adhesive lapping film stuck to glass (a method I use for sharpening my leather knives) and fine wet and dry but I still get a tiny burr.

Has anyone any suggestions for a method for this?

I keep hearing about Carat paper used by jewellers. Is that a solution?

George Daniels recommends flattened Water of Ayr stone under running water. Good luck to anybody trying to get that!

Cheers,

Steve

Edited By Steve Crow on 15/08/2022 18:16:37

Thread: Milling/Routing Brass Sheet
15/08/2022 18:01:32

I've had a go at crossing out some small clock wheels on my Sherline rotary table and mill. Here's a 48 and 73 tooth wheel. And a penny.

These are straight off the machine with a "fingernail" deburr.

cross1.jpg

I drilled out the corners first with a 0.4mm bit then milled out the rest with a 1mm 2 flute carbide end mill. The material is 1mm CZ120.

There was a lot of trig and calculations to get the indexing right but I'm quite pleased with the results. With the 0.2mm radius corners, there is a minimum of filing to do.

My question is, is there a better tool than a 2 flute end mill for this process?

I have been taking depth of cuts no more than 0.3mm so 4 passes to get through. Does any one know of a bit that could do this in 1 or 2 passes?

I have quite a few of these to do.

Please bear in mind that my max spindle speed (2,800) is an order of magnitude slower than ideal!

Cheers,

Steve

Thread: Cosworth V8 1:12 scale
29/05/2022 10:42:43

Here is one cylinder head with valve gear installed and a cam carrier behind it.

valve04.jpg

Valves, tappets and springs (and spares) for the other head.

valve02.jpg

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