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Is a valve plate viable?

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lee webster25/07/2023 17:39:30
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I thought I had better get acquainted with valve cages when I started to draw a small engine in Solidedge. I watched a video by Andrew Whale on the tube. The design was similar to how I thought it would be. But I also wondered if a steel plate with the valve seats could be fixed into an aluminium head.

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The silver part is the steel plate, one in place in the head, and one outside to show the shape. I drew the plate at 5mm thick, but I'm sure it could be thinner. The plate is held in place with two bolts/screws with sealant between head and plate.

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The cutaway pic shows how the plate would sit in a machined recess in the head.

Is this viable? I feel that I have seen something like it somewhere.

noel shelley25/07/2023 17:47:31
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Commercially it's done all the time, so yes. Sealing might be the only problem normally cast in or press fit then machine the valve seat. I would use 2 seperate seats. Noel.

Dave S25/07/2023 18:20:11
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For an alloy head and steel insert a shrink fit would be ok imo.
heat head, freeze insert get stuck halfway in and learn some new curses

Dave

lee webster25/07/2023 18:41:44
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I have seen videos about valve seat inserts. They seem to involve heat and extreme cold. I thought a single plate would be a lot easier.

old mart25/07/2023 19:06:31
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It might be easier to shrink fit and seal if it were circular, fitting into the bore of the head. Even better sealing if the outer diameter sealed with a head gasket. Normal practice is to make two circular cast iron seats which are shrink/press fitted into counterbored holes in the head and then the seats are finished in line with the valve guides.

Edited By old mart on 25/07/2023 19:20:44

old mart25/07/2023 20:20:12
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I forgot to add, if two round seats are close together, the counterbores may be better overlapping and the seat inserts with flats where they contact.

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