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ALAN STAMMERS 128/03/2015 16:04:18
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Hi I have just bought a small lathe [ saupe sd300 ] the info on the motor reads

240 volt 50hz 435/250 watt but the info on that lathe that i downloaded says that the motor is 1/3rd hp and 110 volt is there a difference,dont want to fry myself on my 81st birthday, can anyone enlighten me please alan

Les Jones 128/03/2015 16:57:37
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Hi Alan,
I would say that the information on the motor plate is what you should go by. I suspect that the 435 value on the 435/250 marking is the input power to the motor. the 250 will be the output power which is about equivalent to 1/3 HP As you do not even say which country you live in in you profile I have no idea what your mains voltage is.

Les.

Bikepete28/03/2015 17:34:40
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Assuming you're using it on the mains voltage that it's intended for i.e. 240V then there should be no danger of you frying anything. The makers will produce (and advertise) the machine in both 110V and 240V versions, depending on where they intend to sell it - I believe 110V is more common for the USA, while 240V is what's wanted in Europe generally.

You may have looked it up and found this one - which is being advertised by a USA company, who will be the distributor rather than the manufacturer. Look instead at e.g. this pretty much identical machine from a UK distributor and it is 230V (functionally the same as 240V) and as Les says, the motor is specified as "435W input/250 W output".

So if you are somewhere with 240V mains you should be good to go.

ALAN STAMMERS 128/03/2015 18:08:03
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Thank you very much for the information lads great help

ALAN STAMMERS 128/03/2015 18:11:37
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thank you les, sorry for the lack of info but i only joined the site today so not got the hang of it yet i live in the uk sunny sutton on sea where all old fogies like me seem to live

ALAN STAMMERS 128/03/2015 18:24:50
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Hello again it seems that my lathe is a SAUPE / PRAZIMAT 300 CNC..not sure what the difference CNC mkes though alan

Bikepete28/03/2015 20:00:09
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Hi Alan, hard to say. Does it look basically like the one on that USA website or does it have extra motors and wires visible? Any chance you could post a photo? If it is a CNC lathe it will be designed primarily to be driven from a computer, usually via a control box, with motors driving the motions (though maybe with handwheels as backup). If it is a manual lathe, it just has the one motor (driven by the mains) and you twiddle the handles to get the motions on the slides etc.

Sorry if that is a bit basic - not really sure where to pitch any advice. Are you a complete novice to lathes who has bought a machine and is trying to figure out what it is, or do you know the basics and are just asking about a naming curiosity? What is your experience level, and what sort of an answer are you looking for?

Cheers, Peter

ALAN STAMMERS 128/03/2015 20:17:41
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Hello Peter thank you for reply, i am not an experianced lathe user and i have just bought this lathe off ebay..its in rather poor condition and needs a good clean up i am told , the lathe is due to be delivered on wednesday next week so will post photos if i can find out how to do that as i say i am 81 and although i have quite a few live steam engines including a 3" scale foden lorry and a 2" clayton i am not well up on lathe work, the lathe was owned by a well know writer that published books on model steam engines until he sadly died 2 yeas ago. it has been stored in a garage for quite a while, it was not advertised as a CNC so perhaps it isnt, in fact i am hoping that it isnt..thank you. will post pics after wed, how do i do that ??? thank you alan

Bikepete28/03/2015 20:25:26
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Don't worry about pics Alan, I'll find them on Ebay and post some in a mo...

Bikepete28/03/2015 20:30:26
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Hi Alan, is this the one?

ALAN STAMMERS 128/03/2015 20:33:58
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Hi Peter thats the one

Les Jones 128/03/2015 20:36:42
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Hi Alan,
Posting pictures is not as easy on this forum as it is on others. It is a question that is asked frequently. Here is a thread that should explain how to do it

I've just seen the picture and your reply. That one is not CNC.

Les.

Edited By Les Jones 1 on 28/03/2015 20:40:18

Bikepete28/03/2015 20:39:21
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Great stuff. In that case it is indeed manual and not CNC, and it comes with a very useful vertical slide so you can do basic milling in it.

If it's not too late I wonder if you could ask the seller to have a rummage round for any accessories - there will likely be a lot of smaller items associated with it (but he may not know to identify them). A chuck key for starters, and also maybe a four jaw chuck, steadies, a tool holder (to hold a lathe tool when the vertical slide is removed) etc.

ON EDIT: Just seen on the ebay description it comes with a box of attachments - that's great news.

Perhaps someone familiar with these machines could chip in here with more observations - I've never used one.

Edited By Bikepete on 28/03/2015 20:40:54

ALAN STAMMERS 128/03/2015 20:44:30
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Thanks again Peterm yes the ad for the lathe did say that it comes with a box of spare parts including chucks / drills/ tools etc so will look forward to getting it as i love restoring things like that alan

John Haine28/03/2015 21:25:54
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It seems to be a slightly larger version of the Hobbymat. Quite good little machines, not tremendously rigid as the bed is a ground round bar about 2 inches dia with a flat milled on. No tailstock adjustment. This one seems to have an adapted Myford pattern vertical slide fitted, probably an improvement on the alloy angle plate they originally supplied on which you could fit the topslide with a small and horrible machine vice that was good for nothing. There was a low speed attachment available at one time for the Hobbymat.

Oddly, at one time there was a Midlands company who made a cnc training lathe based on the Hobbymat for a short while, but they later switched to the ML10, but a few come up,occasionally.

Bazyle28/03/2015 21:40:47
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When searching the web and magazine indexes use "hobbymat" and also "MD65" to find more articles etc. that includes the occasional mention on here.

ALAN STAMMERS 129/03/2015 08:09:53
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Thank you for all your help i am pleased that it is not a CNC lathe, not into complicated things at my time of life..nice to know wher to come to for help on this site thanks again alan

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