Ken Weeks | 19/08/2017 10:08:20 |
![]() 132 forum posts 36 photos | Hi Dave I was rather overtaken by events this week (Grandchildren, school holidays) so was a bit slow in getting back to you. Thank you for taking the time to look at the code. Your suggestions were very gratefully received, the code has been modified accordingly. Thoughts about the circuit now need to be turned into fact. Ken |
John Haine | 19/08/2017 10:14:18 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | Ken, what is the site please? Posted by Ken Weeks on 15/08/2017 10:32:41:
Well we have moved way beyond my original post, nice to see it encouraged so much discussion. I have found a site that gives a schematic and code for a three axis DRO using an Arduino I want to just have one axis "X".
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SillyOldDuffer | 19/08/2017 10:29:08 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Posted by duncan webster on 19/08/2017 00:13:15:
having followed this thread with considerable interest I went to dig out the old digital caliper I've had stored away for just such an eventuality. Turns out it is a Digimatic (which I seem to think has a different protocol), and doesn't have a plug connection. Am I wasting my time going any further? Edited By duncan webster on 19/08/2017 00:13:37 Edited By duncan webster on 19/08/2017 00:13:58 Hi Duncan, Can you take it apart and have a look inside? One of my digital calipers had no plug (a solid cover), but there were 4 connecting strips inside on the board. Can't comment on the Digimatic protocol; what I've found in practice is quite a bit of variation between types. What you have might be well understood, or not! Have you got an oscilloscope? Looking at the caliper's output waveforms is pretty much essential if nothing works. Dave |
Ken Weeks | 19/08/2017 10:34:58 |
![]() 132 forum posts 36 photos | Hi John I found the following sites helpful Blog of Wei-Hsiung Huang: Using Digital Caliper For Digital Read Out (DRO) Applications http://wei48221.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/using-digital-caliper-for-digital-read_21.html Arduino reads digital caliper - martin's useless and useful creations https://sites.google.com/site/marthalprojects/home/arduino/arduino-reads-digital-caliper DRO with Arduino and digital calipers by Scrachi - Thingiverse https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1731982 The one by Scrachi shows a schematic and code for a three caliper DRO. The others have some useful information. I posted the code shown by Schraci and Dave suggested some improvements see his post. Ken |
SillyOldDuffer | 19/08/2017 11:25:53 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/08/2017 07:53:20:
A useful post Dave, even for me as a hardened ABV man! Why couldn't they call the library file 'I2C' rather than 'Wire' so it was obvious what to use with 'LiquidCrystal_I2C lcd'? It seems these small details of inconsistent naming plague opensource projects and make it difficult for people to set things up intuitively. I would never have looked for a routine called 'wire' (one_wire perhaps!) making resorting to a tutorial or advice essential. Neil Glad you found it useful Neil but what's an 'ABV Man'? It can't be Adept Blast Valve can it! I know exactly what you mean about inconsistent naming. In this example "wire.h" contains the low level definitions for all I2C devices and the protocol. It's needed to connect to any I2C wotsit. Later, "LiquidCrystal_I2C.h" adds functions like 'print()' to simplify programming an I2C LCD display. LiquidCrystal is built on foundations provided by "wire.h". Actually, the first thing "LiquidCrystal_I2C.h" does is to include "wire.h", so really the programmer doesn't need to know about "wire.h" at all. Confused? You soon will be! Including "wire.h" as well as "LiquidCrystal_I2C.h" is belt and braces, mostly unecessary. One reason it appears in the sketch is down to the IDE. Someone starting from scratch might use the IDE include library option to install the wire library, knowing that LiquidCrystal needs it. That has the effect of automatically adding a #include to the sketch source file, and, as it does no harm, people just leave it there. It's not really an open source problem; commercial code is exactly the same. Under the bonnet computers are amazingly complicated. I used ProcessMonitor to debug a very simple 'C' program on Windows and found the operating system had called about 30 different DLLs before reaching the ten lines of code I'd written! As those 30 DLLs will have been written and modified by many different teams at different times, it's not surprising to find inconsistencies and poor choices in naming. Dave
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duncan webster | 19/08/2017 12:34:22 |
5307 forum posts 83 photos |
pictures of digimatic board. Even If I could work out which tracks to connect to I don't thing I could work with such fine connectons without ruining it Edited By duncan webster on 19/08/2017 12:35:03 |
SillyOldDuffer | 19/08/2017 13:40:12 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | I think it's a dud Duncan. No sign of any connectors designed to share data. The line of 20-odd connections on the lower right hand side of the square chip will be for driving the display. Although it would be possible to tap into them and decode the signals, quite hard work. I'm hopeless at fine soldering and wouldn't risk it either. Perhaps you can find a cheap caliper to play with on ebay or Lidl's? Most of them have sockets. Dave
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Ken Weeks | 05/09/2017 10:23:03 |
![]() 132 forum posts 36 photos | Hi All Having read all the post' and installed the Arduino software on the computer, I have produced a schematic and code for a single axis DRO. The suggestions made by Dave were incorporated Caliper input moved to D8 and D9 The outputs on the Arduino to the LCD moved up by one Arduino 1 now 2 D1 on the LCD Arduino 2 now 3 D2 on the LCD Arduino 3 now 4 D3 on the LCD Arduino 4 now 5 D4 on the LCD Arduino 5 now 6 E on the LCD Arduino 6 now 7 RS on the LCD I have attached the code schematic in a seperate postand and would appreciate comments/suggestions // DRO.ino |
Ken Weeks | 05/09/2017 11:47:15 |
![]() 132 forum posts 36 photos | Hi All I was unable to post the schematic here so I have added it to Kens Album. Ken |
SillyOldDuffer | 05/09/2017 12:40:42 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Hi Ken, A few comments:
Unfortunately I can't test the sketch works in action because my experimental caliper uses a different protocol. Does it fly at your end? By the way, if anyone is planning to use cheap calipers for CNC, beware! Digital calipers seem to send readings at the rate of 3 per second. That isn't fast enough to control a machine. Dave PS. My own efforts aren't going well. After replacing my gash junk box transistor level convertor with a proper LM393 comparator, life got complicated. First the minus sign stopped working; then I noticed that 1 in 3 decodes fail completely. There seems to be a timing problem, almost as if the Arduino isn't keeping up with the Caliper. As that's very unlikely, it must be something I've done. It's making my head spin. |
Ken Weeks | 05/09/2017 15:45:44 |
![]() 132 forum posts 36 photos | Hi Dave Thanks for taking the time to have a look and pass on your comments. The bidirectional module in the schematic is just a picture I had I intend to use this POLOLU-2595 Logic Level Shifter, 4-Channel, Bidirectional This tiny logic level shifter features four bi-directional channels, allowing for safe and easy communication between devices operating at different logic levels. It can convert signals as low as 1.5 AND V to as high as 18 AND V and vice versa, and its four channels are enough to support most common bidirectional and unidirectional digital interfaces, including I AND sup2C, SPI, and asynchronous TTL serial. Features Dual-supply bus translation Lower-voltage (LV) supply can be 1.5 AND V to 7 AND V Higher-voltage (HV) supply can be LV to 18 AND V Four bidirectional channels Small size 0.4 AND Prime AND AND times AND 0.5 AND Prime AND AND times AND 0.08 AND Prime (13 AND mm AND AND times AND 10 AND mm AND AND times AND 2 AND mm) Breadboard-compatible pin spacing. This Arduino stuff is all new to me so I will now have a go at compiling the code and building the circuit. Thanks once again Ken |
SillyOldDuffer | 05/09/2017 16:25:02 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Nice work Ken. I looked for a Caliper friendly level shifter and couldn't find any. Thanks to you identifying one I now know they're available in the UK. Hurrah! Good luck building the circuit and firing it up for the first time. Fingers crossed! If by mischance you get stuck, feel free to post about it. Dave |
Neil Wyatt | 05/09/2017 16:35:30 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 19/08/2017 11:25:53:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/08/2017 07:53:20:
A useful post Dave, even for me as a hardened ABV man! Glad you found it useful Neil but what's an 'ABV Man'? It can't be Adept Blast Valve can it! Oops... AVR! |
SillyOldDuffer | 05/09/2017 18:46:17 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 05/09/2017 16:35:30:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 19/08/2017 11:25:53:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/08/2017 07:53:20:
... Glad you found it useful Neil but what's an 'ABV Man'? It can't be Adept Blast Valve can it! Oops... AVR! Ah, the Advanced Vibration Reducer. Your official job description as Commander in Chief (Moderators) no doubt... |
Ken Weeks | 06/09/2017 10:09:18 |
![]() 132 forum posts 36 photos | Hi Dave Glad I contributed something to our exchange. I got the module from Amazon. Thanks once again for all your help Regards Ken |
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