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Robert Atkinson 208/05/2023 13:42:28
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Posted by Simon Williams 3 on 08/05/2023 12:55:40:

I fitted a very similar looking motor carrying an AEI Houston label to mine, three phase with a VSD but 2 pole to rev the old girl up a bit. Very successful, until a small but persistent spiral of swarf managed to make its way through the ventilation hole next to the terminal box.

Sparken blitzen mit ausgepouf.

It needs its ventilation but you might like to cover the hole.

HTH Simonblock

PS I wouldn't question 1/4 HP - yet. Plenty of umph to get into trouble, run it and learn its limits for a while.

That is why I fitted a TEFC (totally enclosed fan cooled) motor to my ML7. The most basic safety assesment would say "nein" to any motor that was not fully enclosed anywhere near a lathe.

That rubber mains lead really needs replacing. Use crimp ring tags on the replacement and make sure you leave the earth connection a bit longer than the live and neutral. This is so it does not get pulled off first if the cable is yanked. Even more important than usual as the terminal box does not seem to have any strain relief.

Robert.

Edited By Robert Atkinson 2 on 08/05/2023 13:44:29

Edited By Robert Atkinson 2 on 08/05/2023 13:45:03

Penfold08/05/2023 15:41:41
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Thank you all, really appreciate all of the informative posts. I didn’t know that I needed to invest in some wooden blocks too! wink

I agree with all the posts about wiring, not keen on the existing set up or worse, having to reach over the lathe to power off in any situation!

I think the question now is to make do once the wiring’s sorted, replace with a before single phase or go the whole hog and get a 3 phase. A potential never ending source of debate, but any views on which is the most sensible to learn on?

Thanks,

Chris

John Haine08/05/2023 16:02:58
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Posted by Penfold on 08/05/2023 15:41:41:

...... A potential never ending source of debate, but any views on which is the most sensible to learn on?

Thanks,

Chris

Makes no difference.

Howard Lewis08/05/2023 17:34:50
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A 1/4 hp single phase n motor is powerful enoughm to injure myoun if you get invoved with whatever itb is driving.

But underpowered for a Myford 7 Series. As already said, a 3/4 hp single phase, or a 1/2 hp three phase.

In the hobby environment, three phase is likely to be fed from a VFD invertor drive.

With a screw on chuck, reversing bthem motor does risk unscrewing the chuck; but CAREFULLY done, can be used. NO heavy cuts, but best avoided. If for parting off in a rear toolpost,

DEFINITELY invert the tool to avoid the need for reverse running.!

Howard

SillyOldDuffer08/05/2023 18:11:39
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Posted by John Haine on 08/05/2023 16:02:58:
Posted by Penfold on 08/05/2023 15:41:41:

...... A potential never ending source of debate, but any views on which is the most sensible to learn on?

Thanks,

Chris

Makes no difference.

Agreed. Single phase motors aren't awful, it's just that 3-phase are smoother, have more torque, and can be speed controlled.

Changing speed on a single-phase machine is a mild flap, requiring belts to be moved to get perhaps 3 fixed speeds. Fitting a VFD saves time by reducing the number of belt changes needed, and allows speed to be fine-tuned, which is moderately handy.

None of that matters when learning, and most Myfords have never had speed control. However, if the single-phase motor is bust, there's advantage in replacing it with 3-phase. All those who've done it seem pleased with the result.

Dave

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