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Martin Connelly29/06/2018 15:34:54
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Eccentricity of circular saw blades can be caused by the method used to sharpen them. Old methods used a spring loaded pawl to position the blade for sharpening. A search for circular saw sharpening will bring up plenty of images of cheap machines that do this. Any initial eccentricity gets amplified by this system. I arrange for cold saw blades to be resharpened 40-50 at a time and now specify that they must be sharpened on a modern machine that electronically indexes the blades. Before that we were getting major eccentricities as blades were repeatedly sharpened.

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Andrew Tinsley29/06/2018 16:23:45
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Hello Andrew (Johnston),

I use my slitting saws on a horizontal mill Centec 2B). The saw is aligned accurately with the table and everything is tight (no detectable wear). I still get the saws running off and I am now at a loss to work out why. There is no perceptible eccentricity and the saws are new, by good quality manufacturers.

I have tried varying the speed and depth of cut, not to mention tooth size. Hence my query "are slitting saws good for anything!). I am using free cutting mild steel so that can't be the problem either! The thinner the blade the worse the problem.

Andrew

Martin Connelly29/06/2018 19:52:22
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Is the blade heating up? As stated in earlier posts the blades distort if they get hot. Flood coolant in industry avoids this but most home machinists don't use it.

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Andrew Johnston30/06/2018 11:02:33
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Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 29/06/2018 16:23:45:

I use my slitting saws on a horizontal mill Centec 2B). The saw is aligned accurately with the table and everything is tight (no detectable wear). I still get the saws running off and I am now at a loss to work out why. There is no perceptible eccentricity and the saws are new, by good quality manufacturers.

I have tried varying the speed and depth of cut, not to mention tooth size. Hence my query "are slitting saws good for anything!). I am using free cutting mild steel so that can't be the problem either! The thinner the blade the worse the problem.

It's a mystery! I've never had any problems with slitting saws on a horizontal mill, although the thinest one I've used is probably 1/16". Can you describe the running off? Is the cut not vertical or does it wander horizontally? There's a clue that thinner saws are worse. That implies that the thinner saws are less able to resist whatever force it causing them to wander. What happens if you put a DTI against the side of the saw? The saw could be running true (no eccentricity) but still be wobbling slightly from side to side if there is dirt or a nick on the arbor spacers for instance.

I suspect it's a case of back to basics, look at everything and post it here; someone may be able to see that an assumption about something in the set up is incorrect.

Andrew

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