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Where and what format for boiler marking

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David Jupp08/06/2016 07:34:49
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Posted by michael cole on 07/06/2016 20:35:14:

Just a side point, boilers made for steamboats do not require to be CE marked.

Michael, I can't find such an exemption mentioned in the Pressure Equipment Regulations - unless you are referring to boilers of less than 2 litres volume, which fall into SEP. Could you please clarify?

Brian Baker 108/06/2016 07:41:50
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Greetings, Pressure vessels for ships, and steam launches are deemed to be ships, are exempt from PVR "CE" marking requirements.

Regards

Brian

David Jupp08/06/2016 08:13:25
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Ah - thanks, exception 14. I didn't spot the connection.

Dusty08/06/2016 08:25:27
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Julian That is exactly my point, if the certificates are in existence then no problem but when they go missing any number has to have a significance. This is not a problem for the original owner but if subsequent owners want to track back without those certificates JMA5 means nothing, however 999/14 is traceable a call to The Registrar will show For instance Central London Model Engineers, the trail has been found. The system is not entirely for the original owners benefit but subsequent owners.

Edited By Dusty on 08/06/2016 08:27:17

David Jupp08/06/2016 12:27:37
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Further to the point on steam boats and Pressure Equipment Regulations. I've contacted a Notified Body that works in both Pressure Systems and Recreational Craft (Boats).

They tell me that steam boats up to 24m long are covered by the Recreational Craft Directive, to get an approval under the RCD, it would be expected (checked) that all on board systems comply with relevant directives (including PED).

Presumably larger boats/ships would be governed by the likes of Lloyds Register and their rules.

I'm not trying to suggest anyone is incorrect, just that things may be more complex than it initially appears.

Andy Ash04/01/2022 10:40:30
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Posted by DMB on 07/06/2016 22:09:13:
Does a CE mark really mean anything? At least one non-EU country exports a lot of dodgy goods to the UK which catch fire or are painted with lead based paint, e.g., so why would they worry about an illegal CE mark if it only acts as a selling aid..?
I suggest that I and any other model engineer could very easily stamp a boiler with home made forgery CE marks, if so inclined.

Edited By DMB on 07/06/2016 22:11:37

There is a lot of confusion about the meaning of CE mark. To a consumer, generally it has the meaning "of Commercial Origin".

The implication for the creator of the goods is the most significant. If the creator is found to be placing the mark inappropriately, then he/she can be legally pursued and stripped of his/her right to place the mark.

Basically anyone is allowed to place a CE mark (unless that right has been formally revoked). Generally non-commercial items should not wish to (nor should) apply one. Its non-placement absolves (to some degree) the creator of responsibility. Consumers should expect to see it on supplied goods, because it indicates that they can (perhaps) hold the creator responsible.

It would not be advisable to place the CE mark unless one had public liability insurance to cover the accountability/responsibility that it implies.

The CE marking has no specific meaning outside of indicating the scope of responsibility, should a problem occur.

This advice applies to any kind of product, not just pressure vessels.

Edited By Andy Ash on 04/01/2022 10:58:41

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