Here is a list of all the postings Sam Stones has made in our forums. Click on a thread name to jump to the thread.
Thread: The walrus? |
12/09/2011 11:13:51 |
Hello again Dick, I began to cringe when I thought of your clock being washed in the sink. That’s taking damping to extremes. In my case, my dear wife has been following my clock’s progress and has seen much of the effort being put into this latest (and final) sprucing. That’s hardly surprising since much of the work was carried out on the dining table, suitably protected of course. Anyway, it was through her encouragement that I picked up where I left off the project more than thirty years ago.
After a bit of balance wheel tweaking, I'm now waiting for the clock to run down completely, ready for a full eight-day winding without (my) interference. Thanks for your interest. Regards,
Sam |
11/09/2011 23:40:56 |
"But wait a bit," young Sam did cry, "Before we have our chat; It’s 12BA and quarter Whit, But Metric under hat!" "Gerroff!" said the M E lads. "We’ll have no more of that!" "Let’s carry on this witty gab, Before the thread runs dry!" "To Norman, Jeff and Ian too And also A D Y. There’s many more that I could thank, For that we’d all say `Aye!’." "Design a clock with CAD for CAM, Without a lot of gears. No need for a dividing head, Nor any bloomin’ tears. It could be, you’re just like me, Quite wet behind the ears." ![]() |
10/09/2011 00:22:08 |
Ladies & Gentlemen, "The time has come," the clock-man said, So it is for me, now that my one and only clock is finished.
I shall of course, keep a watchful eye on the very entertaining ME forums, and will certainly aim to respond to any personal messages. Regards to all, Sam |
Thread: Tiny brushes |
24/08/2011 04:56:51 |
Thanks Chuck,
For me, this business of clock making has generated several other instances which could attract embarrassment. Again, they have required wandering through the ladies departments. While making hair-springs, I had planned on dissolving super glue with nail-polish remover. So where would you get that stuff? As it turned out, the chemical action was not as brisk as I wanted.
I also wanted a pair of special eyebrow tweezers, with broad flat jaws. It took ages wandering back and forth until I found just the right sort.
The tips of these were to be modified so that I could squeeze tapered dowel-pins into place, or by reversing the tweezers, the pins could be extracted. I had already appropriated a pair of tweezers from SWAMBO, and altered them for bending the hair-spring of the clock.
The only thing more embarrassing, is dropping a 12BA x 3mm long brass screw on the garage floor, when I don’t have a replacement.
More fun,
Sam
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23/08/2011 23:02:55 |
Hi Phil, Thanks for your comments. Since I’m amongst men accustomed to getting their hands dirty, I thought it wise to clarify the point about the chemist’s shop. I didn’t actually go there for the purpose of buying engineering tools. It was less embarrassing to wait for the dispensary to put together my prescription by standing near the dental displays, rather than where they keep their suppositories and rubber gloves. That’s when I spotted the tooth brushes.
Have fun
![]() Sam |
22/08/2011 22:52:20 |
Hi Phil, I’m pleased to know someone else can find a use for them.
![]() The packet is marked `Made in Sweden’, and there is a recommendation on the back of the packet that the brush itself should not be bent back and forth.
Although I haven’t determined what material the bristles are made from, I suspect that they are Nylon. There’s a fair degree of (relative) stiffness in the twisted wire, but clearly, it would be wise to take care to avoid breaking any in your oil holes. Good luck, Sam Edited By Sam Stones on 22/08/2011 22:53:17 |
22/08/2011 03:04:44 |
Approaching completion of my clock, I have at times resorted to using toothpicks, BBQ skewers, cotton buds, and various other `household’ implements. I found these at the local chemist.
A `mixed pack’ of six cost about AU$8, and their size range is noted as 0.4mm to 0.8mm. However, that appears to be the size over the twisted wire, since the largest (0.8mm), is 5mm overall diameter measured over the bristles. The inset shows their full shape, and a handy little extension piece. Regards to all, Sam |
Thread: Plumber's grease |
22/08/2011 01:05:56 |
This is great information, some of which confirms my doubts. I trust too, that having gone down part of this track before, I haven’t bored the socks off any of you gentlemen. Put simply, I have of necessity, become a skinflint.
![]() Yet, I’m conscious of "spoiling the ship for ha’p’orth of tar", and since I won’t be making anything else, I want to do the right thing. Judging from the replies, it is also necessary for me to use more cyber `ink’ and put this current phase of my project into better perspective.
Before the clock is assembled for the last time (by me at least), I need to lubricate it in a couple of less accessible places, ie. the `click' and the ratchet wheel inside the fusee, and also the main spring. Now clean, polished and lacquered, the fusee, great wheel and maintaining wheel are ready for assembly. It would be handy therefore, to apply lubricant to the ratchet so that these parts can be assembled and put to one side.
A ten minute job!
Although there have been a couple of reasons why the main spring needs cleaning, I no longer have the correct means of removing it from the barrel. In fact, I never have. NB - IT'S TOO DANGEROUS WITHOUT THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT! It has been suggested elsewhere, that I wouldn’t need to remove the spring from the barrel if I washed it in petrol, and then applied grease. If greasing is the better approach, it should be possible to apply a tiny `drop’ between each layer as I wind it. In view of the above, that will have to wait until after the clock is fully assembled
Gordon, I considered Vaseline, but it melts at about body temperature. Watching the clock dripping stuff could be embarrassing in a Melbourne summer. Then again there wouldn’t be much of it. With my limited knowledge in chemistry, I have to ask - Why should a grease based upon silicone or lithium cause concern? Thanks for your comments about Vaseline, KWIL. Spraying on a lubricant is not an option for me, having spent time testing and applying shellac lacquer to the brass in the past few weeks. I could of course decant some onto a wooden toothpick, and poke that where needed. (And nowhere else!) The pivots, pallets, and impulse bits require the absolute minimum of oil but, on this clock at least, they are always accessible. Advice from several quarters has shown me the way to lubricate the clock, and that using a minimal amount of clock oil is very important. Thank you for your comments, Norman and Clive. I had the notion that a sticky grease would suit both the ratchet and the spring, and having `washed out’ a couple of camera shutters, I can appreciate the separation and migration of oil from cheaper greases.
Regards to all,
Sam |
21/08/2011 04:38:07 |
Gentlemen,
Can anyone tell me about the white grease used on water taps by plumbers. I have a tube of the stuff, and wonder if it will be OK for the (steel) click and (brass) ratchet of my clock. All I need would cover the head of a match, so there seems to be little point in buying a tin of normal grease if this will do. Would it be OK on the steel main spring too?
Thanks for you help,
Sam |
Thread: Percival Marshall |
20/07/2011 21:36:43 |
Vernon,
I've sent you a PM, which may add to your details.
Regards,
Sam |
Thread: John Stevens’ skeleton clock |
13/07/2011 00:18:39 |
Hi John,
Yes I did, and am jotting down some details.
I thought you might want to chat directly, hence my email address.
Best regards,
Sam Edited By Sam Stones on 13/07/2011 00:19:34 |
12/07/2011 23:05:57 |
Hi John (McNamara),
You may have missed my PM's!?
Sam
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Thread: A New Dividing Plate for my Dividing Head |
12/07/2011 02:49:45 |
In my CAD package (Keycreator), zero is also at 3 o’clock, and also counts ACW. This seems to gel with my memory of trigonometry. The first gear wheel I made for the skeleton clock back in the 70's was the Great Wheel. This brass wheel transfers the torque from the fusee upwards into the main gear train. At that time, I had a Myford ML7 and a home-made 40:1 dividing attachment with three dividing plates. DRO’s were a thing of the future. John Steven’s drawing describes the 96 tooth wheel OD as 2 23/32" (or about 69mm), and 7/32" (5.5mm) wide. I turned the blank to size (as you would), and ground and hardened a piece of round silver steel, the end of which had the all important tooth profile. This was my fly cutter. In a Melbourne summer, there can be a lot of flies around.
I began cutting grooves between the teeth, gaining confidence tooth by tooth as the job progressed. At last I was cutting the one remaining groove, and decided as a final check to `drop’ into the first groove. Whoops! What’s this ‘ere. The first tooth disappeared before my very eyes, which should have been better trained for such serious work. Further investigations showed that I didn’t actually have the right number of holes in the dividing plate to `do’ 96 teeth, and had in fact chosen the wrong combination. My luck was `in’ however, because, of all the gears in the clock this, and its mating lantern pinion, were the only two gears where the tooth count didn’t really matter.
So, as with many traps for new players, the Great Wheel (and the Maintaining Wheel) ended up with only 94 teeth. Regards to all,
Sam |
11/07/2011 08:08:39 |
What a wonderful gadget John,
Every home should have one.
But wait a minute, I've got exactly the same in my CAD package.
Sam
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11/07/2011 04:17:45 |
Andrew, That’s very impressive. When you told us you would probably use the DRO, was that X and Y? If so, then what was your coordinate source. Regards, Sam |
Thread: John Stevens’ skeleton clock |
09/07/2011 06:29:35 |
Hi Pat, Your comments are most informative and would be applicable if I were making the glass cover myself. Unlike my rather slow progress recently, it appears that I moved too quickly with regards to making the glass case. I handed the glass part of the project to a local glazier who told me the job would be ready this coming Monday or Tuesday. However, I will certainly keep your details in mind, and trust that your comments will also be of use to others. When I suggested a smell of ammonia, perhaps I was wrong, and maybe it was acetic acid. Many years ago, I became involved in moulding parts from silicone moulds. I used RTV (ie. room-temperature vulcanising) two pot mixes. The work was critical enough to warrant buying and using a high vacuum pump to de-aerate the mix. It was quite surprising to watch the mix froth and grow in volume by about three or four times, as the air beaten in during mixing, came to the surface as bubbles. I can’t say one way or the other if there were volatiles being released at the same time. Overall, it was a very satisfying process, but certainly needed a de-aeration stage wrt the silicone.
Thanks again for your help.
Best regards,
Sam |
08/07/2011 23:24:22 |
Gentlemen,
Personally, I have no problem with this thread going the way it has wrt the name Parslow, so long as it doesn't offend others.
Phil T and John Mc, I've sent you a PM which says a little more wrt Yellingbo.
As for the silicone issue and the brass of my clock, I suspect that what is evaporating from the silicone is ammonia. At least that's what it smells like. I wonder if the amount of silicone left between the glass after trimming with a scalpel will be sufficient to hassle me!?
Regards,
Sam Edited By Sam Stones on 08/07/2011 23:25:33 |
08/07/2011 05:20:32 |
Norman,
I very much doubt that the silicone which the glazier will use, will have a similar refractive index to glass, but we'll see. Unless we have more window-shattering storms, it should be ready early next week. Re: 15 day skeleton timepiece by J Parslow To John (McNamara) and Phil (blister) How remarkable, and what a small world. As the crow flies, the two villages you have each mentioned are only 3.5 miles apart. Could it be that you knew each other as you grew up? On my 2004 disc there is an address of C I Parslow 2100 Healesville-Koo Wee Rup Road
YELLINGBO VIC 3139 5964 8203
Could this person be the very same Chris that you knew?
I've emailed John Parslow to ask if he has any connection.
Regards to all,
Sam |
07/07/2011 04:36:46 |
Gentlemen,
I have added three more pictures to my album of thirty which shows various parts in the construction of John Stevens’ skeleton clock with lever escapement. With the help of John Parslow’s approach, (thank you John), and under the skilful and selective eye of my wife I’ve combined Tasmanian oak beading, shellac lacquer (French polish), and a layer of dark blue cloth which has extra padded thickness. The shellac has produced a brassy colour which we believe compliments the brass of the clock. A trip to the glazier’s shop will be the next step in making a glass case to protect the clock. I plan to glue the glass panels together with clear silicone, aiming to produce a near invisible joint. If the refractive index of the silicone was similar to that of the glass, I could imagine that the joint would be hard to detect. Any thoughts? Once the case is complete, I can then strip the clock down to its individual parts ready for a final clean-up, another polish, and then apply my version of lacquer to the brass. It was interesting to discover that the British Museum don't apply lacquer to their exhibits, but I'd rather not have to go through the cleaning and polishing bit again. One last thought. From my super-gluing experiments, I wound enough length of balance spring to make a couple more springs if needed. Judging from the quality of the one presently controlling the clock's accuracy, a better one would be more satisfying. Regards, Sam Edited By Sam Stones on 07/07/2011 04:37:44 |
Thread: Super Glue & Balance Springs |
03/07/2011 04:05:34 |
As always, Michael, your descriptions are explicit and promote even more thought.
Upon reading your latest posting, I’m drawn deeper into issues about stress distribution, stress relief, Poisson’s ratio, and the like. As for his ratio, it only really gelled in my mind while observing the movement of expanded lead mesh as used in accumulators (lead/acid batteries). However, that was a two-dimensional representation, whereas Poisson’s ratio more often deals in three dimensions.
I’m also left wondering about the surface stress, and the possibility of fatigue failure. I have only come across shot peening (academically) as a process applied to helicopter blades. As for this tiny spring of mine at 0.2mm diameter, I can understand that if the surface is in compression, it will contribute less to the spring’s performance, but is also less likely to facture in use. Since peening would have to be down to a micro scale, the only option (should I proceed) would be heat treatment. All I would be comfortable with would be to stick the spring in the kitchen mini-oven for an hour or two, but at what temperature? Instead, I’ll take a chance and trust that the spring in the clock will outlive me. There’ll be less embarrassment that way round. I also take your point about preparing the end connections. Not that I’ll be able to do much more then carefully curl the ends into line with the top (balance-wheel stud), and the bottom (balance-wheel collet) anchor points. This has led me to make a cylindrical template, such that one end was turned down a fraction to lineup with the stud hole, and the other end to match the hole in the collet. Finally, you almost brought tears to my eyes when you mentioned nickel chrome. Not the wire so much as it being a favourite steel for plastics moulds, the business I started in as a raw apprentice.
Best regards,
Sam |
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