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Hello Vic,

I recall Crown supplied chucks to Myford for their early ML 1-3 lathes, the nose thread changed in size and pitch for the ML4, one of which my father bought in 1945

It may not of course be the same maker but the coincidence in activity is striking

Regards Brian

Maybe a small galvanised steel header tank from a plumbing merchant would do well. It will be open at the top but would that be an impediment?

Brian

Kevin,

I had this problem 23 years ago when we moved to our present house. My solution was to spray everything with WD40, wrap individually in clingfilm and stow in plastic boxes to fill them as full as careful packing allowed. Spray again and tape the lid shut.

Some of these boxes remained sealed for nearly 3 years and had to be stored in a damp building. The contents were still in top condition when I unpacked them.

When I worked at Rolls Royce Aero they had their own solution which they called sozzle in which everything metallic was dipped. It was a paraffin solution of lanolin at a fairly high concentration making the gloop close to a jelly like consistency. That treatment worked well with the export of service tools and the like to the tropics.

Regards Brian

I don't have a Senior mill with the vertical head, mine is the smaller Junior model for which such a feature is not available as far as I know

It almost sounds as though the vertical head is not bolted back to the body and moved when it was in use. As this was your first use in this form it would pay to check that. Otherwise I am baffled.

Regards Brian

David,

I have just had some exchanges with Neil relating to an article offering I sent earlier this week so it looks as thought the contact problem is resolved

Brian

Thank you Ketan, that is a lot more definitive if a little disappointing

Brian

Maybe Ian you could save us the detective work in finding your comment and be kind enough to tell us when in 2023 is is planned for.

Regards Brian

Traffic is a problem at Harrogate I must agree, but so it is becoming everywhere.

Other than the comment made by Nicholas Farr passing on a word from a trader, I had hoped to have some more definitive news about whether or not Harrogate will be used this coming year. Nothing official yet it seems

Brian

If it is being held at Harrogate, parking is on the showground and there is plenty of it. The exhibition will be inside the halls with hot running for traction engines outside

And yes, this is the venue that was transferred to Doncaster a few years ago. It would suit me nicely if it does come back, it is a much nicer venue

Brian

I am hearing a rumour that the Harrogate Showground will be hosting a show in early 2023.

Is there any truth in it?

Brian

Hello David,

His name is Geoff Adams, phone 01202 986057. Since you will not be able to contact him by email arrangement until you have posted maybe twice more [to discourage trader abuse of the site] that is all I guess I am able to pass on to you. He wants £775 for it but I have no idea if that is realistic

Regards

Brian

From what you say John with the outside run out it is beginning to sound as though the machine has had some kind of crash in the past. If these two run out values, internal and external are in much the same position that would confirm my thinking and left it with a bent spindle.

Re-machining the T8 taper won't put that right and new bearings will also be sensible to fit as well. Dave Wooton had knowledge of the Bridgeport clones he recut the tapers on along with run out values for the outside of the spindle so he would have known the taper was all he had to correct.

I still think you should now talk with the vendor, it is beginning to sound as though he has unloaded it

My sympathies Brian

Hello again John,

Ouch! Obviously my plan is not viable and with respect to Baz, I don't think his plan is as easy as he makes it sound.

Have you spoken to the man who sold it to you? It would be fair to get his reaction rather than try to correct matters yourself.

Brian

Hello John,

That doesn't sound good to me. Have you tried a taper shank drill in the socket to see what happens at the tip of the drill? Is the effect progressive or confined to a particular area?

As to recovery, before you do anything take a very good look to see if there is local bruising at the mouth of the socket in which case a taper reamer may well be all you need to whip it out and clean it up. Not easy working upside down to check progress so it may help to grip the tang in a drill vice and hand hold the combo where you can better feel and judge any 'orbital' effects and bias the action accordingly.

Best of luck Brian

Come on SOD or are you showing off some obscure knowledge?

The use of fluorine/fluorine compounds may be technically correct regarding burning temperatures achievable but it is hardly realistic stuff to be hauling about safe breaking from within sewers! Especially nasty material to be near

Sorry to be pedantic Brian

Hello Michael,

You could try Just Bearings [look them up on Google] who sell a comprehensive range of bearings, oil seals and other such useful stuff, or take the extracted parts to your local bearing agent and see if they can match them.

I don't know the drill model at all so can't offer advice on how to take it to pieces

I would suggest too, once you have daylight on it, you look at the condition of the fibre gear. The untimely release of drive under load which started this thread could have damaged the teeth and that too may need replacing. PM me for help with that.

Regards Brian

It happens, don't bother about it. Nice to have it confirmed though!

On my ancient No 1. I took the precaution of fitting a Jubilee hose clip round the column just below the head and marked the bolt clamping the head with an exclamation mark to draw attention to the potential hazard in a moment of extreme stupidity or especially senior behaviour

Regards Brian

Hello Michael,

It sounds very much as though this is a clamp bolt that grips the column. With the bolt undone by as little as half a turn and the weight of the head supported as you said, give the bolt head a sharp tap with a hammer to separate the clamp halves within the boring that contains them.

Now you should be able to raise and lower the head, before locking it  by tightening the bolt again in the new position. It does not need clamping hard as you have found

Regards Brian

Edited By Brian Wood on 24/10/2022 18:13:39

Edited By Brian Wood on 24/10/2022 18:14:38

One thought that occurs to me, now that we seem to have established that this machine is a Progress 2G is that the first reduction gear, the helical one shown in Michael G's posting, is made in Tufnol. It may have been damaged by repeated unintended release as the gears have separated under load.

It runs in an oil bath but it might be timely to examine it now that the cause of jumping out of gear has been found and rectified

Regards Brian

Hello Michael,

My drill in a New Progress No 1, bought second hand in 1960. No gearbox on that one, yours is clearly a different model with similar name.

How confusing

Brian

Edited By Brian Wood on 23/10/2022 18:09:46