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Hi all, there was a thread about lubrication of lathe chucks with quite a bit of discussion as how to do it and what "grease" to use. I can no longer find the thread or I would have posted on that one.

I was looking for some new jaws for my Pratt Burnerd chuck and came across this Pratt grease specially for chucks.

https://www.colchester.co.uk/spares/product/pb16oz-pratt-burnerd-chuck-lubricant/

I couldn't find any jaws but thought the link might be of use to others.

Cheers,

Daedalus

Hi all,

Does anyone know what the equivalent of Gargoyle DTE 797 might be. I think it was an old Texaco oil. The milling machine it is for was built in 1966 in Italy. I have not been able to find anything at all about what it might have been.

Cheers,

Daedalus.

Admin, if this is not in the correct place can you please move it to a better forum.

Hi all,

I have been asking lots of questions and people have been very good in coming back to me, so it seems appropriate that I try to pay back in a small way, as I have someone to recommend who can move machines at a realistic price.

I found him via the MrCrispin YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@MrCrispinEnterprises), as I recalled that he had used him to move a Jones and Shipman 540 grinder.

Contact Ian Burgoyne on 0790 648 0925. He is based in the Midlands between Derby, Nottingham and Mansfield, but seems to be happy to cover further away if required.

He moved a milling machine for me from Bromsgrove, taking it to his warehouse overnight and then bringing it upto me in Huddersfield next day. After unloading it and getting it in the garage, he then took me to pick up a J&S Grinder from near Rochdale, which was then again unloaded to the garage. I understand he can lift up to 2 tons as single lift as long as its close to the truck and carry 3 tons or so. I am hoping that he will be able to pick up a lathe for me in a couple of weeks.

He is happy for you to assist but will tell you when what you are doing is not right I understand that he likes moving Bridgeport mills best.

Very approachable and professional in how he goes about things and the prices are quite realistic. Well recommended.

Admin, if this is not in the correct place can you please move it to a better forum.

Hi all,

I have been asking lots of questions and people have been very good in coming back to me, so it seems appropriate that I try to pay back in a small way, as I have someone to recommend who can move machines at a realistic price.

I found him via the MrCrispin YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@MrCrispinEnterprises), as I recalled that he had used him to move a Jones and Shipman 540 grinder.

Contact Ian Burgoyne on 0790 648 0925. He is based in the Midlands between Derby, Nottingham and Mansfield, but seems to be happy to cover further away if required.

He moved a milling machine for me from Bromsgrove, taking it to his warehouse overnight and then bringing it upto me in Huddersfield next day. After unloading it and getting it in the garage, he then took me to pick up a J&S Grinder from near Rochdale, which was then again unloaded to the garage. I understand he can lift up to 2 tons as single lift as long as its close to the truck and carry 3 tons or so. I am hoping that he will be able to pick up a lathe for me in a couple of weeks.

He is happy for you to assist but will tell you when what you are doing is not right I understand that he likes moving Bridgeport mills best.

Very approachable and professional in how he goes about things and the prices are quite realistic. Well recommended.

Yes thats the one. I was looking to buy a new Chester mill, had put a deposit down and then spotted that one, along with all of the accessories so I canceled the order with Chester. As I thought that I was getting the Chester I have just taken delivery of a new dividing head, rotary table and vice. I'll have to try to sell those now.

As it happens I have had a couple of other people mention they had seen that Ingers machine for sale on Market Place.

Hi guys,

I know that someone here will be able to help with this one.

I have bought a new to me milling machine, a rare for the UK Ingers 2 universal with a full range of accessories, I should get it next week. The taper in the horizontal and vertical heads is INT40, but I am unsure of how it compares to BT or ISO, what it has in the way of threads and pull stud if any. Does anyone know of any comprehesive drawings and spec sheets for them? I have searched Google and others and cannot find quite what I am after.

Thanks in advance

JasonB,

I downloaded the photo and blew it up (unfortunate term of phrase considering the topic of the post), but couldn't read the plate. I left RSA or BES as it became after about a year of the de-merger from RSA. They do have some really good surveyors there, worked with some cracking lads. But the take over was funded by some sort of venture capital outfit and I could only see conditions getting worse than they were already getting. So went back into manufacturing, the 40% uplift in pay took the sting out of leaving.

I used to be a boiler surveyor for my sins, having spent the thick end of 15 years as an engineer at sea and almost the rest of my working life in brewing, and food and drink with boilers.

I used to do small boilers in coffee machines in the likes of Starbucks to the boilers at Ferry Bridge power station. They wanted me to do the heritage work on steam rail and traction engines as well. I took a long look at it and decided that I really didn't want to be involved, there are far too many enthusiastic amateurs around, who do their best, but it's really not enough. I could see that I’d inspect something and then be waking up in the middle of the night wondering what I’d missed.

As someone who likes to make sure a job is done not only correctly, but to a high standard of correctly, it was one of the reasons I left doing inspections.

Let the people who know exactly how to build boilers, build them and then use a company like British Engineering Services do the inspections. Keep them right and you won’t have a problem don’t and you will. The link below is to an article in the Daily Mail about a coffee boiler explosion.

Sainsbury Coffee Boiler

Hi Earny49, yes I spoke to him, but his lift will not quite do for the grinder. Its about 100Kg short. Must admit that he gave a very quick idea of price for just an 18 mile distance of £400 which seemed a little steep. Maybe I need to try to find a trailer.

I am looking for transport to move a J&S 540 grinder with extract and cooling systems. Does anyone know a company or man with a bigger van and small Hiab who can do this? I would probably stick my oar in to make sure the machine was fully strapped down to my satisfaction.

Hi Andrew,

Yes I noticed that in the specs, but the vertical and horizontal heads have different numbers of gears, so I assume that there are 2 motors at 2.2kW, I will have to clarify that one with Chester. The Warco I have looked at is also 1.5 and 1.1kW.

Really I suppose I would like a Deckel FP2 with all the accessory tables and dividing heads etc, but those are like Unicorn Horns.

Cheers.

Hi Robin,

I assume with all the work you have done you got the HV in a used condition.

The HV version with the 3 axis DRO also seems to come with a table that can swivel as well, which would be a nice addition. The WM50 misses out on the power feeds but has the swivel table, but is not in stock. The Chester has the power feeds but no swivel table but is also 25% heavier than the Warcos. Pays your money and takes your chance I suppose.

If I can find one used I will go for it, but at the moment there is nothing at all.

Cheers.

Hi Robin, I did look at the HV, but it "only" has 30 tapers, I was after 40 taper as I can get the tooling really cheap and I will be doing some larger jobs on it. I also considered the Warco WM50, but it only has X axis feed and a 2 axis DRO.

Just as a matter of interest how are you finding your HV, at least it is in stock?

Hi again all,

I am hoping you can help me again with a query I have, re the Chester Model T Super Mill. I was wondering if anyone had any experience of owning/using one. I have been after a mill with vertical and horizontal heads, easyish change between the two, power everything, ISO40 on both spindles, DRO etc. But I'm not wanting a large machine. I have looked at the Warco equivalents, but they don't seem to have power feeds all over.

https://www.chestermachinetools.com/product/model-t-super-chester-universal-milling-machine/

Thanks guys, I know that you will come up with the goods.

Hi, up to now I have used Rocol cutting fluids, dripped or brushed onto my workpiece and tooling in the lathe, mill and drill. Its got to a horrendous price, what can others recommend, that will work as well, that maybe cheaper?

Edited By Daedalus on 17/06/2023 07:57:07

Jelly,

I'm waiting on prices at the moment from Trens.

I have found a DSG 1307 * 40 for £7K but DSG, (Now in Preston), think a rebuild would be between £5K & £10K. Then there is the hassle of getting it there etc.

The same site with the 1307 also has a Colchester VS 2500, it's in budget but is almost twice as old as I am really looking at.

I have time to be picky so will carry on looking, I must admit though that the Trens SN 32 looks good, although I would have to check if I can get a toolpost to fit it that will take the 25mm tooling.

Cheers.

Jelly, re your post and comment

"I suspect that a rebuilt (and warrantied) DSG or a new "Trens" ex Slovenia would both be cheaper than and more satisfying than a new Colchester (or a new Chester)."

I will have a look at the Trens tomorrow, but I suspect they will be out of my price range. The only one I could find on line was 20 years old and $9,000 almost. I will also give DSG a call, but I think that the majority of their machines, beautiful as they are, will also be too rich and probably a bit bigger than I want. I always recall the headstocks being huge and I'm not sure if they made metric versions.

I have actually used a TOS lathe previously, when I was in the Merchant Navy. One of the ships I was on in the very early 80's, was one of 5 built in Poland and they had TOS lathes on them. They were as I recall quite big machines with probably a 2 mtr bed on them. But the machine had everything you could wish for on a centre lathe. Lots of speeds, lots of threading, and I'm sure a high speed lever for the feeds. You could get the saddle from one end of the bed to the other in seconds. Though I may be mixing that one up with a Stanko on a ship built in Russia.

The less said about that ship the better, although the workshop was really well equipped, it needed to be. I have never had a ship fall apart as often as that one did. One memorable job was having to machine a wear sleeve out of 4" mild steel bar, (it was all we had) to keep the sh*t pump from leaking from the main shaft gland. The leak was that bad it leaked more raw sewage into the waste tank room than actually got pumped over the side of the ship. (When you could still do that sort of thing). It ran like that for a couple of months before I left it. I do remember having to cut off the length of bar with a hacksaw as the power machine had no suitable blades.

Bazyle,

Now that is a thought, a realy good thought. I hadn't even considerd doing something like that. The pit is dry enough, it has the frame for my motorcycle down it at the moment, which will be coming out soon for the rebuild, so I can get it to the IOM TT next year. In fact If I do it right I can use it as a motorcycle lift at the same time. I don't have access to AutoCAD LT anymore, so I will have to start learning Fusion 360.

But I will have to consider hard because it would be quite a good place for the footings for the new lathe.

Edited By Daedalus on 23/10/2022 17:44:47

Hi Colin,

where did you get the Gate PMB2000 from? Was it new or used? I had a quick look online but couldn't find much, gatetooling.co.uk seems to not want to load.

I have seen so many used machines that have been in a word cr*p, that I am considering the new ones. I cannot be bothered trying to sort out an older machine if it has issues. If I get to my allotted time of 82, then I will have had 16 years use out of them and they won't be used that hard really, so even chinese machines should last the course. My middle lad will be getting them when I pop my clogs. With regards to the milling machines I'm looking at I'm really after a knee type turret mill with the addition of the horizontal spindle, just trying to cover everything off really. I'm not in a real hurry so I'm happyish to wait a while. The only issue with that is if the £ goes base over apex against any currency really.

I did consider a Colchester Master VS3250 but it only has a 42mm spindle bore, so I will be looking for a recentish good condition VS2500 or the Harrison V390. I like the idea of the VSD as I would put one on anyway. I have a brand new unused but older 5.5KW Danfoss that I'd put on, I know its a bit small for both the VS2500 and the V390, but I can keep an eye on the load easily enough.

Cheers.