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It fitted the end of shaft.

It's only a small wheel. but a great back up if needed.

But you already knew that Neil lol.

Peter

I even learnt how to use Google for words I did not know the meaning of!

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It is a great Forum.

Regards

Peter

Hi Bayzle

You are of course correct.

It does have a cast headstock or wealded 5mm thick washer I took the thing apart and put it back correctly and boom it works .

I did notice that there once was a very small pin that went through the brass handle to fit over the shaft.

This was impossible to match up being only 1mm max and someone in the past had drilled out a M6 hole and fitted a grub screw.

This grub screw is not really up to the job so I might go M6 and put a pin in.

Thanks again

Regards

Peter

I just offered up a grindstone and I could get it to fit lol.

Wow it certainly looks the one to me.

The only issue I have is the tool post.

The screw thread that allows you to move it forward and backward will only go 1 way.

And that's forward??

If I go to unwind the thread there is no resistance to move the whole unit, it just winds the thread out.

The sideways bar thread works ok though.

With only a few washers left over I cannot see anything that I have done to have cause this in re assembly.

Regards

Peter

Thanks Oldiron

Is there a way to amend /add to a post guys?

Might save my posts being all over the place.

I still have not found any name to identify the lathe, and that might be because I never looked very hard before I put it back together.

In the Kennedy Hacksaw thread photo's I also uploaded a picture and the address of the place I got a belt from.

Regards

Peter

Thanks Howard.

Just for information, I recently purchased a straight grinder as I wanted something with a bit more grunt than my Dremmel, but not so big and clumsy as a Angle grinder.

The big name makes are like £200 plus, so when I saw one on Amazon for £27 it seemed a no brainer, especially when it had a few 5* reviews.

So out I go to wire brush the Kennedy Hacksaw and the 1st thing I noticed it vibrated a lot.

Within 30 seconds it got very warm.

45 seconds it was sounding quite ill.

1 min and the thing started to melt lol.

Smoke was billowing out of it so I un plugged it and threw it into the grass.

1 hr later I put it in the fridge to cool it down so I could send it back.

Amazon have done the decent thing and withdrawn the product but only when sold seperately.

All the ones that come with tools and extras are still selling.

Just in case anyone is thinking of getting one of these, here is the link,

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07557R8X4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have found a supplier that makes the exact size flat belt for approx £15 including postage.

As soon as it arrives I will post up details, as I forgot where I ordered from.

I can't comment about the saw as I was looking for restoration projects.

But now I have stripped it down and did a bit of research I want to keep and use it.

I agree with the author of the last message in this thread.

It will be perfect for what I want and that's cutting round and flat steel bars for making parts for the 74 vice.

In fact I can make jaws for most models now.

Thanks

Peter

I wonder if this little lathe will turn 316 stainless?

Or I might just keep the mild steel and polish it up.

Thus far the people that have bought them have all said they want to add to a collection they have, or to make their man cave look cool.

The bottom line is I am enjoying myself and staying positive.

Location is SM4 5RJ

I am looking for events I can travel to over the summer as I like that sort of thing.

Makes a change from Military ones.

Might just meet up with some of you!

Thanks

Peter

Hi Howard and thanks for the speedy reply.

I live in Morden Surrey.

Yes agree with you that for the moment the lathe is fit for the intended purpose.

I can always remove the drill chuck I suppose if needed.

The last Lathe I used prior to this was massive, and I used to turn out Road Sweeper parts for Johnson Brothers in Dorking.

Funny how after all this time (46 years) that I can still remember roughly how to use it.

The old boy who used to own it made miniture gun carriages like they had in the Crimea.

His work was of an excellent standard.

Thanks

Peter

Sorry to jump about from lathe back to Record vice 74.

Someone was asking as to why the valve guide holes are at that angle?

Apparently its a separate holder that slips into those 2 holes and the cylinder head then attaches to the holder. So basically it's for the fitting of a cylinder head clamp.

Apparently rocking horse poop to find one.

OK looking at the head I could move it to the rear about 1 inch.

There is another hole at the bottom of the trench positioned underneath the belt run.

It just clears when running up but umm, I think it may distract me.

I only have a pillar drill and grinders in my arsenal at the moment.

Whatt's the overall verdict folks?

Thanks again

Peter

I noticed on a couple of the Youtube videos that people are hanging weights on the saw to what I can only deem as getting a quicker cut?

Appreciate this saw is just for a hobby or restoration, as you can get new ones that are far better for £150.

Bazyle that exact chuck is on eBay for £39 atm.

Tomorrow I will strip that chuck down and lay it all out and take some pictures to upload.

Need to be careful as the more I spend the less the charity will get so I need to do it right the 1st time.

I am not Familiar with terminology so Head stock I presume is the part the lathe chuck slides into?

For the purpose of making the round Anvil for the vice I can get away with sliding the drill chuck back or take it off.

I have a 300mm length of 40mm steel that I was going to cut down on the Kennedy.

Once I have it cut to size and turned I will see if I have the equipment to heat it up to harden it.

I just realised it's mild steel and not 316 or greater stainless or toughened as needed.

But I am a learner.

I have a blow torch that will hopefully deal with it as in the big gas bottle ones used for roofing, and setting light to your neighbors fence by mistake kind of one!

I think I dip it in oil after to cool it but do not want to jump that far ahead as I only finished the lathe on Thursday.

I really like this forum as we all seem to sing with the same Hymn sheet

Peter

I was lucky enough to win only last week on eBay an original in the box never been used one just last week.

It had been in the possession of this guys Grand parents since the late 30's which was when the 1st variant came out. (1936)

These had more writing on them and the cast was excellent.

Then as the war came on the casts were pitted and of poor quality.

The bolt for the pipe vice was dropped until all you had left was Record 74.

I was informed that there was a seperate bolt on that went into these holes so you could grind the valves.

I just had a count up and I have 9 x 74's laying around including the one in the box which I am keeping.

I sometimes get sellers lowing the price when I tell them what I am doing with them and have got them as low as £20.

The most expensive is the new one at £100.

I have sold 6 thus far on average £130 but I do spend a lot of money and time on them

I found a guy in Belfast who will make me a pipe jaw that he inserts a small round magnet into so it won't fall out of the later models with no bolt on the side.

He also makes me a set of smooth jaws and the originals are vicious at least!

He charges me £25 for the 3 items.

I use paragon paint @ £35 a liter.

I completely strip them down and use the bench wire wheel until I get every bit of crud off.

When prepped I use 2 coats of red oxide and then 3 coats of the Paragon Enamel.

I am only going to use the original Red top coat from now on as the greens are slow sellers.

My last 2 have gone to serving members of the armed forces who own classic cars.

They just want them in their workshop!

Interestingly enough the 74 which weights 10.50 kg has a big brother.

A Record 75 which is 22.40 kg and Paragon record Blue in colour.

Now these in poor condition are fetching up to £150 for some reason.

Having fallen out my loft on Friday 13th July 2018 and busting both arms my nose and a few ribs, I am a bit limited to what I can lift.

So imagine the 40 plus kg 25 I have and spare me a thought lol.

Thanks again

Peter

Edited By Peter Andrews 3 on 23/02/2020 21:59:49

Thanks Paul.

I need to get my head round it as it's all new to me.

The chuck is 3" so would you suggest I drop down to 2.5"?

I will take it off and upload some pictures just in case there is something I am missing.

I do not have a clue as to price, but quality must be a priority yes?

Peter

Thanks guys.

Yes I never even thought about the safety switch.

I would like to find another chuck as this one is sadly broken.

The center shaft that the Crown wheel goes over should be attached to the chuck body, (I believe) Unfortunately it isn't and it fell out along with the crown wheel when I took it apart.

I could see where it had sheared, and it fully explained why it struggled to move freely with the chuck key.

I am not sure where I would get one to exchange with, so much Chinese trash floating around eBay etc for the £40.

I would also like to change the tool post out as it will wind in but not so clever at winding out.

Well it was/is fun doing this project, and I just really need to concentrate on getting a decent size shed erected, so I can work during the winter.

At the moment with the sole exception of using grinding and polishing wheels, I do everything in my Kitchen.

Might explain why I am not married.

Have a great Sunday guys and thanks for the support.

Peter

I read somewhere that the kennedy was designed for the council workman so to speak.

Plumbers who worked on site had them in the back of the vans supplied by the Councils they worked from.

be it electrician plumber etc!

I paid £40 for mine 10 months ago, and not really sure other than a restore project why I wanted it?

At the moment it is stripped down and being cleaned etc ready for re-assembly.

I did find a dash pot boot that will fit great and thought I had posted it up here but I must have forgot to hit save.

So here it is again.

It is actually a motor bike front fork boot,

MCR-1162 HERO VIP FRONT FORK BOOT

ebay.

Just need a jubilee at the bottom to fit the dash pot.

Thanks guys

I went on the hunt for a small lathe so I could turn my own anvil that fits in the top of the Record Auto vice No 74.

I have sold 10 thus far after restoring them and all profit I give to the PTSD Veterans Charity as they need it more than I do.

I have been restoring them after watching YouTube restorations on my many in patient holidays in Hospitals, currently running at about 30 days a year.

The amount that have them missing is running about 40% and a lot of those are rotten.

So it made sense as the diameter of the bar needed is 40mm bored down to 20mm and total length approx 40mm.

Anyway I saw this on Facebook Market Place just down the road from me and the guy accepted £80 for it.

I do not know if this was a good price but it was one I was more than happy to pay, as it was his Fathers who had passed and he was down sizing.

It took me about a week to strip, restore and re- assemble.

I had a few bits left over despite taking 30 photo's.

Let me know what you think guys as to be honest there are a few things I would like to improve on.

I also noticed that when I stripped out the lathe Chuck (Which was full of grot) The spline which is supposed to be welded in has all 3 welds sheared!

Luckily when it's all put back together the backing plate holds it firm.

But it really does feel like its full of sand when unwinding/winding the chuck.

Thanks and enjoy your weekend or whats left of it.

Peter