Here is a list of all the postings Chris TickTock has made in our forums. Click on a thread name to jump to the thread.
Thread: Facing off on Sherline |
24/08/2019 14:27:32 |
Posted by JasonB on 24/08/2019 14:15:08:
try 5 degrees between cutter and finished end of work. A photo of your cutter in the toolpost would be a big help
Thanks Jason worked fine at slightly more than 5 degrees.Question would it damage the cutting edge or cause other issues if more of an angle was tried? Chris
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Thread: Any one recommend a supplier of 1/4 inch lathe blanks |
24/08/2019 14:10:33 |
Thanks Guys the consensus is ArcEurotrade or Tracy Tools...thanks again. Chris |
Thread: Facing off on Sherline |
24/08/2019 14:02:56 |
OK Guys basic help needed and want to get it right. So I wish to face off the end of this hex bar. My inclination is to turn the cutter a few degrees and take fine cuts. If I am right how many degrees is usual.I am using a cutter which my book states can be used to face as well. regards Chris |
Thread: Any one recommend a supplier of 1/4 inch lathe blanks |
23/08/2019 20:38:06 |
Hi, Any one recommend a good supplier in terms of price and quality of HSS 1/4 inch blanks for lgrinding into.athe cutters? Regards Chris |
Thread: Simple table of potential hardness of metals |
23/08/2019 15:30:38 |
Hi Guys thanks for all the replies. My thoughts are ; I have only come across references to the Rockwell scale in terms of how hard it may be to machine or how hard it may become after heat treatment. Therefore it can be used as an indicator of hardness which does not mean in many cases the best suited material. Regards Chris |
22/08/2019 13:56:25 |
The question I would like answering is exactly what is the use for me as a home machinist in a hardness scale (lets assume we are referring to the Rockwell Scale). For example if a metal can be heat treated to a higher HRC is this of value in relation to another metal yielding less. At first this question seems simplistic but many factors could arise so its a question I would be interested in anyone answering as there's always something you don't know. Regards Chris |
22/08/2019 11:45:57 |
Hi, what would be very useful is for me to be pointed in the direction of a table showing the potential hardness that can be achieved with the various metals we would commonly use in home machining. I believe this is called the Rockwell index but stand to be corrected. Regards Chris |
Thread: Hex Silver Steel/Tool Steel ?? |
22/08/2019 11:42:12 |
Posted by Andrew Johnston on 22/08/2019 11:22:58:
Personally I wouldn't buy basic stock material from Ebay. A free cutting steel is almost certainly a low carbon steel and may also contain lead. Low carbon steels cannot be hardened in the same way as silver steel or gauge plate. They can be case hardened, which increases the carbon content of a thin layer on the surface. Case hardening can give a very hard wear surface while leaving the core softer and more ductile. However, that's not really what you want for a centre punch. One regrind of the tip and you'll lose the hardened surface. The 24 is tpi - threads per inch. A 5/16-24 thread is UNF, a US standard, UNified Fine. I'd use an M8 bolt instead. The M8 fine thread has a pitch of 1mm, so 25.4tpi which is a good match. However, metric fine screws are less widely available than metric coarse. If coarse or fine is not specified assume coarse. So I'd stick with M8 coarse which has a pitch of 1.25mm. Hi Andrew you correctly identified 24 threads per inch as UNF so my question is how many threads per inch indicate UNF rather than another standard. Regarding metal EN* is stated as being through hardened. Firstly is EN* machinable for the Sherline lathe and what does through hardened mean? I would take it to mean that it comes as through its volume hardened as opposed to potentially being later case hardened but hey that's why I am asking? Regards Chris Andrew
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22/08/2019 11:36:47 |
Posted by JasonB on 22/08/2019 11:18:08:
Ideally you want to know the grade, go with a seller who says their 1/4" hex is at least EN1A. This would be very easy to machine but no good a as punch You won't be able to harden EN1A to use as a punch, without knowing what the other "freecutting" metals are it is hard to say but probably not hardenable for this use. Does this mean you are now going back to using mild steel? Not necessarily still investigating what is most important is to improve my knowledge so I ask many questions often appearing contradtictry but with reasons that aren't always apparent as it is a fact gathering exercise. The bolt will be a 5/16" UNF thread form with 24 threads per inch (tpi) as imperial fixings tend to use tpi and metric the pitch between each turn of the thread. In the long term think about what system you want to use, not much point in spending out on UNF taps just for a project when you intend to work mostly in metric in the future, alter bolt spec to suit
Edited By JasonB on 22/08/2019 11:26:35
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22/08/2019 11:02:21 |
Thanks guys and sorry about my still somewhat confusion as to Uk and American jargon but Jason is right I have I read amongst other things American books so some loss in translation at this stage inevitable. moving on to metals on EBAY I note hex bar is available as free cutting steel now I have looked up this and it means what it says but would I need to know what grade of free cutting it is and also if it is possible to harden such. While I am highlighting my deficiencies also in the I use American book is a project requiring '5/16 - 24 x 0.75 long hex end bolt. Would i be right this is 5/16 thread but what does the 24 mean? Regards Chris |
21/08/2019 16:44:06 |
Hi Jason, I already changed my mind from using mild steel. Now going the 6mm silver steel route for entire thing. Like your idea. But questions in relation to your method. 1. Why use silver steel for end piece would o1 be as hard when hardened? Can't see reason for silver steel other than needs to fit exactly into drilled hole. 2. Would loctite hold as it will be subjected to shock? Any recommendation as to which loctite?? Just got new (used for £15) book Table Top Machining by Joe Martin at face value really good. Regards Chris |
21/08/2019 14:52:34 |
Hi Guys well unless I've missed something high carbon hex steel is not easy to source in Uk especially in small quantities. So my options are; 1.Just use round in stead of hex. 2.Do it in mild steel just for the exercise 3. Find another project 4. Use an old suitable hex alum key after annealing I am tempted to do it in mild steel as it is the practice that is paramount and therefore no real waste. Regards Chris
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Thread: my knowledge of steel needs improving |
20/08/2019 17:17:52 |
Posted by Jim C on 20/08/2019 17:07:45:
Christopher. See if you can get some EN8 either in round bar or hexagon. It will turn ok and then can be heat treated. Ideal for a centre punch. Jim. Will investigate...thanks Jim. |
20/08/2019 16:45:26 |
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 20/08/2019 16:09:06:
Silver Steel is usually sold as Silver Steel, aka Drill Rod in the US, with no magic number needed. O1 is an American specification for a Tool Steel, not an Engineering or Structural Steel. It's European Specification is 100MnCrW4, but it's often called O1 in the UK, for example as sold by Metal Supermarkets. For historical reasons steel specifications are a confusing muddle. Nationally, internationally, commercially and over time. Following old plans can have you frantically searching for apparently exotic materials simply because the terminology has changed. Not many know what Muirkirk No 1 is, nor is it likely to matter much, because mild-steel is better! Fortunately most of us only use a few common alloys and it gets easier once you know what 's needed in your workshop and stocked up, perhaps from a Horological specialist. However it's rarely necessary to use exactly the steel specified : for making a clock I'd think 4130, 4140, and En19 are so similar as to be indistinguishable. Dave Great reply Dave Chris |
20/08/2019 16:44:05 |
Thanks Andrew the metal required is for a learning project (to make a centre punch) nothing to do with clocks at this point. You are absolutely right on EN19 being an alloy steel. I have posted in reply to a very old post asking for a supplier of 1/4 inch hex carbon steel for this project that I suspect the original poster was in possession of. The project listed 4130 as the required metal or any other high carbon metal, hence my classification error now noted, none. Regardless of all can't find suitable metal. Regards Chris |
Thread: Hex Silver Steel/Tool Steel ?? |
20/08/2019 16:16:47 |
Well funny enough I too want just over 6 inches of high carbon steel in 1/4 inch hex format to make a centre punch. Recommended metal is 4130 which is approx EN19 anyone suggest a supplier or anyone got anything surplus to requirements? (We are following a project in a book in case you are curious.) Regards Chris |
Thread: my knowledge of steel needs improving |
20/08/2019 15:33:54 |
Yes and there on your link the equivalent standard was readily found Mark: |
20/08/2019 15:29:26 |
Thanks mark just discovered looking under wrong standard o2 comes under sae/aisa and not British on the table I was looking at. But surely there is a BS standard equivalent. will look at your site ..cheers. Chris |
20/08/2019 15:11:45 |
Hi, I am currently lining up a few projects for my Sherline lathe simply to learn basic skills. One project requires aisa 4130 steel which is I think is equivalent but not exactly to EN19. Any high carbon steel will do but my question is when I look up an international equivalent steel table for engineering steels I see nothing about 01 tool steel almost certainly as I don't know what i am looking for. Does 01 steel come under engineering steel and what code does it go under in the UK?Does silver steel have a unique code distinct from tool steel? regards Chris |
Thread: Dails Caliper has a mystery component in box? |
20/08/2019 14:50:43 |
Thanks guys you have given me enough to work on. Regards Chris |
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