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Thread: moving a 1250kg bridgeport clone
29/09/2023 19:27:48

Knee is back on. Managed it ok by myself with engine hoist and load-leveller. Feeling positive.

25/09/2023 22:41:28

Thanks very much!

Do they all have centrifugal slipper-clutch type handles on the table? I thought they were broken at first.

24/09/2023 17:12:16

Little vid showing the machine in pieces and all the tooling and stuff that I picked up with it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EACbTmvLdnQ

Edited By Carl Farrington on 24/09/2023 17:12:55

23/09/2023 23:28:05

It went well.

Thank god I had a very handy mate with me.

It's in my garage in pieces now and the hire van has been returned. I'll post more details tomorrow, it's been a long day!

21/09/2023 09:14:22

Thank you for all the tips, they are invaluable

Regarding the motor, yes it is a variable speed head, hence not wanting to lose ~20 - 60 minutes faffing about with it at somebody else's premises.

Edited By Carl Farrington on 21/09/2023 09:14:52

20/09/2023 23:13:46

Thanks Pete. What if I want to leave the motor attached? I know it will affect the balance but as long as it's held on that fixture, and I have sling on crane ready to lift it off, it should be ok I hope.

It's just I am not totally clear on the motor removal procedure and time will be of the essence this Saturday.

20/09/2023 21:26:59

Thanks Pete. Good to see I'm not the only insomniac too surprise

I have made the head-receiver jig. I didn't think I'd find any useful bits of metal on hand so was going to have to do some last minute travelling, but I found the remains of an old TV wall-mount bracket, and an old/worn out spindle shaft from the lawn mower.

 

I don't think it really needed welding, but I have anyway. That's a 24mm nut on the bottom.

The 'collar' must be impregnated with oil because it sweated buckets when I tried to weld it, but anyway I managed to get more than enough weld into the shaft to prevent that collar from slipping down when the head is on it.

 

I couldn't get the shaft in the centre of the plate because I only have a small crappy drill-press. The mill will be quite an upgrade!

 

I think I will just need to cut the end of the shaft down a bit though. How much space is there inside a ~18mm collet ?

Edited By Carl Farrington on 20/09/2023 21:33:09

20/09/2023 03:23:04

So there's no problems with it being too heavy to lower to the ground by hand? provided you've got the leverage of the timber?

20/09/2023 01:58:39

I have a question about laying the column down actually - how do you do it? I am hoping to lay it down at some point.

I would like to strap hoist to turret area once turret and ram are removed, but how do I do that? I understand there will just be the spider casting inside, and that this can be loose, and fragile.

I have some 19" car tires that might fit around the top of the column to add extra protection. I can take some long pieces of timber to give leverage once it starts to fall.

It's a square column and looks like straps would slip on the outside.

Maybe I just leave the turret on - then there's something for straps to grip to. I was originally planning to remove ram and turret as one piece.

Edited By Carl Farrington on 20/09/2023 02:28:11

19/09/2023 18:24:28

Thank you !

19/09/2023 16:56:02

Thanks Clive. I will take that advice on board and leave the knee attached! It may prove too much for the tail lift but we will have a couple of engine hoists.

I have an engine load-leveller and I am ready with some 1/2"-13 bolts to bolt its fixings (L-shaped plates) to the tee nuts, for the table.

like this:

19/09/2023 09:44:34

Thank you!

We're actually going to dismantle pretty much all of it. Remove head, remove ram and turret, remove table, remove saddle, remove knee. Leaving what is hopefully about a 500kg column.

18/09/2023 22:29:36

Been and had a look today. It's bloody massive!!

We're going to dismantle it on Saturday and use engine hoist, load levellers, pallet trucks, and Luton tail lift to get it home.

16/09/2023 17:37:22
Posted by Martin Cargill on 16/09/2023 17:24:28:

How high off the ground is the lifting point? Most engine cranes do not have the height to lift a mill onto a trailer. I have a two tonne crane and it took a bit of mucking about to get the slinging and lift chain on the crane short enough to allow us to lift a Viceroy lathe onto a trailer (pushing the trailer under the crane once the lathe was lifted). Remember to hitch the trailer up before loading it.

Be careful as well because stripping bits of the mill to reduce the weight will change the centre of gravity and you may end up with the lifting point not being at the correct point for the lift being made.

Martin

That is the one dimension that isn't in the KRV2000 PDF instruction manual. They show dimensions from bottom to top (including motor), which was 81" from memory. but doesn't show height of eyelet. I will ask the seller if they can measure for me.

16/09/2023 17:36:23
Posted by Fulmen on 16/09/2023 17:23:04:

I've moved an A&S Bridgeport a couple of times. Placed on a pallet, used a pallet jack and a winch to pull it onto a twin axle trailer. Not fun but doable back when my back wasn't completely fubar.

In terms of that method, I'd expect the pallet jack to go up the trailer ramp backwards best - big wheel first, but then there's that possibility of the pallet and load sliding off the forks. Which way round did you do it?

Also I do have the issue of the ramp being 'for walk-on loading', rather than 'drive machinery on'. It's a builders trailer. I can pick other trailers but this one looks sturdy and not too wide for my spiral driveway, but it has that crappy ramp. I'm wondering how I can fashion a ramp to go over that one. I suppose long planks with varying thickness bits of wood underneath to support and raise.

I have contacted Ian anyway as per the recommendation here so I have my fingers cross for that

16/09/2023 16:39:01
Posted by Dave Halford on 16/09/2023 16:24:01:

There is another mover I have a recommendation for moving machines. | Model Engineer (model-engineer.co.uk)

I have watched some of that chap's youtube videos before! I'll get in contact - thanks very much.

16/09/2023 15:26:45

Actually Clive it's not your dolly I have seen, it was KWIL's.

Do you by any chance have pictures of how you bolted the wood H frame to the table?

16/09/2023 14:35:48

I see what you mean about removing the head with the table - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFE_nXQCH6E

Edited By Carl Farrington on 16/09/2023 14:43:06

16/09/2023 14:26:59

The surfaces at both ends are smooth by the way..

16/09/2023 14:25:41

Thanks Clive. I did see your picture and have read some of your prior posts on this sort of thing.

I could make a similar dolly, but what about getting it into the trailer?


This was the trailer I had in mind up to now:

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